http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_UN0cvXr7g

thats just a turbo upgrade running off of stock internals.. the highest ive seen on stock internals was 400whp with no problems. due to the RAs tranny you probably wont be seeing numbers as high as the genesis

 

No, you edited it because you didn't read the article or other thread. The only thing I was wrong about was what block the RA had. The Gen coupe has an open deck, there is a side by side shot of the Evo X block and gen coupe block in one of the links I provided. It doesn't matter if the article isn't up to your level of competancy, the pictures are proof enough.

 

If I hadn't read it before how did I know that it's been at NASOIC for a week? http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1715753

The pictures are proof of what? The the 411B has a semi-closed beefier block compared to the Hyundai 2.0L? We already know that.

 

Okay dude, you put me in my place. Congrats.

 

Dude it's no big deal really.

 

I'm sorry but is there such a thing as a 411B engine? isn't it 4B11?

 

I never posted that the RA had a open deck. I simply stated that along with the 2-bolt main that it also had the open deck design.

 

This is all speculation. I mean hell the SST hasn't even broken yet with 350+whp.

 

I would get the RA over the Gen anyday. I mean it might be turbo and rwd with "about" the same motor but it is still a hyundai. Its kinda like a turbo rwd geo IMO.

 

What's this?

I posted that the R/A uses practically the same engine as the evo, and therefore theoretically stronger than the version in the Genesis. Someone then said that this wasn't true, and then HeavyD came and supported my argument. Then someone else said it doesn't matter what the R/A has.. huh? I thought this thread WAS about the Ralliart and the Genesis.

So, back to my point - The engines in the gen coupe and the R/A are not the same. The one in the mitsu is most likely better.

Also, the gearbox used in the ralliart is made in Germany by Getrag. VW makes their DSG under license from BorgWarner. So the two are not related. In fact, according to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-clutch_gearbox), the idea for a dual clutch gearbox was invented prior to WW2, but didn't see an actual working model until porsche used one in the 80s.

If you want to see a basic explanation of how a dual clutch gearbox works, you can find it here: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/dual-c...ansmission.htm


In theory, an automatic can shift as fast as a twin clutch gearbox, and is probably capable of skipping gears even faster than a twin clutch. In this case, there's nothing really wrong with a traditional auto IMO as long as it uses a lockup torque converter.

 

Oh, and finally I should mention the integration of the systems. You can have a great engine, or transmission, but if they don't work together well because of their implementation, then something spectacular can be made to be not so good. The entire drivetrain on the R/A works very well. You get the differentials from previous gen Evos (center is the same as the X too), and a slightly different engine/transmission from an EvoX MR.

I would say the overall package of the R/A is a pretty damn good. But the genesis coupe certainly is a bargain.

Also keep in mind that a 300+ HP V6 camaro can be had for less than a V6 hyundai. And while I don't have direct experience with a camaro, I've driven a G8 quite a bit which uses a similar platform. That means the camaro will have pretty damn good suspension, and excellent steering feel.

 

Actually if you look at any of the HIGH HP camero's or supra's or cobras you'll actually find them all to be auto. Its quicker and you wont have the slip when trying to start like you would in 1st or 2nd gear. My friend has a 800+ hp cobra was running stick for two years but couldn't drive it on the street because he couldn't keep the tires from spinning. Changed it over to an auto and now drives it every day and is quicker in the 1/4 then with it being stick

 

High hp drag cars might use hgihly modified autos because they are consistent and fast. They also tend to use built Chevy Powerglides or TH-400 because there are so many drag racers using them, heavy duty parts for holding 900+hp are all over the place. Plus you can add line locks, high stall TC's, pull type shifters and on and on...

That doesn't mean much for the average joe looking for a fun car to drive on the street.

 

Whether its a Hyundai or not, i still think the car is se*y as hell. And at least you can cram some decent rubber in the rear unlike the RA. But i'll keep my RA any day of the week.

 

^ see thats why i posted this as a question. I think the Coup is sexy as hell and a two door since i don't have a family thats not an issue. To as i don't know which i want to get and asking to see what people say