Improving Handling...
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From: somewhere testing various tires, brakes, and suspensions.
Both cars are silver ext, black int.
Don't get me wrong, the M3 is great. The Pilot sport Primacy's I have aren't a great performace tire, but are good for everyday driving. They are good in the wet and quite but not for hard driving. I have only had the RA for 3 weeks, but I think that it is pretty close when driving on the street for grip (spirited but cautious driving, don't want to smoke a curb).
But just going by the specs the RA pulls .8g and 128 ft 60-0 braking while my 13 year old M can pull closer to .9g and 60-0 at 110 ft all day long. So at the track or auto X I know the M will be the winner.
I actually find the RA steering very tight, like a go cart. The M3 is probably more precise because of RWD and 50/50 weight dist you know what the car is doing and you can throttle steering it. The RA because of the AWD can't pull off the same sort of balancing act, at least that I have seen. I suspect the EVO X with AYC might have a chance to do that.
Last edited by C H; May 2, 2009 at 08:07 PM.
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: somewhere testing various tires, brakes, and suspensions.
It's been said a few times already but people keep gravitating back to suspension.
Upgrade your wheels/tires first. If you don't want to do the wheels, do yourself a huge favor and at least get new tires before you start even thinking about any of this other stuff. It's not simply that you need more sticky tires either, you need *wider* tires. Your suspension upgrades will be for naught if you do not increase the contact area between your car and the ground. Once you've picked up the wider tires, you can then start to analyze what kind of suspension setup lends itself best to your needs/driving style.
I realize that its not as glamorous as a nice set of coilovers or the look of a slammed RA/Evo, but you'll be most satisfied not rolling around on pizza cutters any longer. If you do decide to upgrade your wheels (recommended), go with something lighter and you'll find the benefits of the unsprung weight you just shed may outshine the benefits of lowering springs and an alignment. Just my .02. Good luck with your decision.
Upgrade your wheels/tires first. If you don't want to do the wheels, do yourself a huge favor and at least get new tires before you start even thinking about any of this other stuff. It's not simply that you need more sticky tires either, you need *wider* tires. Your suspension upgrades will be for naught if you do not increase the contact area between your car and the ground. Once you've picked up the wider tires, you can then start to analyze what kind of suspension setup lends itself best to your needs/driving style.
I realize that its not as glamorous as a nice set of coilovers or the look of a slammed RA/Evo, but you'll be most satisfied not rolling around on pizza cutters any longer. If you do decide to upgrade your wheels (recommended), go with something lighter and you'll find the benefits of the unsprung weight you just shed may outshine the benefits of lowering springs and an alignment. Just my .02. Good luck with your decision.



