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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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The tranny was leaking after 500 miles, took it back to the dealer and they said, we can fix it. Never the less I get the car back, and 2 days later the tranny was back leaking... So at this point i call Mitsu Motors. They then sent out some tech to the Norco Dealership where I bought the car and determin, they needed to replace the tranny. So they did. I ask the parts guy, how much is that tranny and he said 9k.... But now i have a new problem with my MPG's.. There gone! I only get 254 miles to a tank of gas... wtf

New tranny needs to be broken in? I know my car has gone from about 22-23 mpg to 25-26 mpg on the highway at about 1500 miles.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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As for lauching your RA there isn't a safe amount, if you want to test it out and be the first person to burn your SST out and have your warranty voided that is your call.

As for a GSR they aren't easy on clutches either. If you lauch EVOs hard all the time they will chew up clutches. They will be much cheaper to replace then a SST but they aren't exactly cheap.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:25 AM
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lucky u never release the brake at 6-7k rpm
or else u would have to spent 9k for that transmission
lol
but i wonder what if lancer ralliart come out with a manual transmission
it would definitely sell like crazy
but i guess they wont do that
as it is cannibalisation to the 2.4l lancer...
but well, i wish they offered a manual on the ralliart
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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If you wanted to drag, you bought the wrong car. My last car was a WRX, and I never understood the WRX drivers who try to turn their cars into dragsters. The fact that these cars are competent at the drag strip is a testament to their versatility; however, Mitsubishi and Subaru engineers didn't spend countless hours researching and designing these cars to do a standing quarter mile as fast as possible.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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^LOL^ They build them around the ability for them to be modified. (Well the EVO's anways)
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ladogaboy
If you wanted to drag, you bought the wrong car. My last car was a WRX, and I never understood the WRX drivers who try to turn their cars into dragsters. The fact that these cars are competent at the drag strip is a testament to their versatility; however, Mitsubishi and Subaru engineers didn't spend countless hours researching and designing these cars to do a standing quarter mile as fast as possible.
Yeah, but one of the selling points of the wrx is it can do 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. I noticed that was one of the first things the subaru dealer said when I was looking at one the other day. Of course I know that you have to do a redline clutch drop to get that kind of number. Low 5's is more realistic for a "reasonable" rpm launch and the RA is'nt too far off from what I hear.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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I would say for those times that you want to accelerate hard off the line, then your best bet is to rev the engine to around 3k while braking. It essentially employs a similar method i've always used to quickly accelerate awd cars off the line (turbo and non). Yes, it puts more wear on the clutch(es), but sometimes it's just "worth" doing. I would definitely stay away from doing it at 7k, tho
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Yeah I figured the best RPM's would be around 3K. When it reved up to the 6-7K's, the car went into like a "limp" mode and it was basically in neutral, so even if I wanted to launch at that RPM, the car would not let me. It goes into the neutral/limp mode at around 4K RPM's or so.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by IdriveRA
brake launch only if your at the 1/4 mile lol..even then dont do it too often or much.
I hit limp mode like 4 times already at the track, just had to let it cool off.
I got my 13.5 @ 97mph..I was happy..So no more brake launching for me for awhile.
hmm weird cuz i never had a problem going into limp mode or whatever
and i have had about 10 runs at the drag brake launch and then some races on
"closed roads" and still no problem and it doesnt tell me to slow down or anything. havnt done it since april and everything seems perfect
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Menendez
hmm weird cuz i never had a problem going into limp mode or whatever
and i have had about 10 runs at the drag brake launch and then some races on
"closed roads" and still no problem and it doesnt tell me to slow down or anything. havnt done it since april and everything seems perfect
And you turn the TSC off and put it in Sport mode too? And no slow down thing? What RPM's do you launch at?
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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I have a couple other questions about the SST:

1) When I am in Manual Mode and I shift gears while taking my foot off the gas, the car jerks into gears, is that normal? Is it bad to take your foot off the gas to change gears in manual mode? It's just a habit of mine...
2) When I start moving in slow traffic, it sometimes jerks into 1st gear, I remember this with my CVT on my '08 GTS but is this normal for the SST?
3) I'm not 100% sure what clutch slippage feels like but sometimes I feel like it is happening, is that normal for the SST?
4) Overall, what are some of the so called, "out of the ordinary" things that the SST does that I should not be worried about?

Thanks in advance for your answers...
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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1) When I am in Manual Mode and I shift gears while taking my foot off the gas, the car jerks into gears, is that normal? Is it bad to take your foot off the gas to change gears in manual mode? It's just a habit of mine...
Where do I begin...oh yeah STOP DOING THIS!!!

A couple of things here. First you are running a turbo, as soon as you let up on the gas the RPM's will drop and your turbo will start to spool down. So once you hit the gas it will kick back up and jerk. Second the transmission is computer controlled and it works/adjusts based on every action you take, sure you are in manual mode but the thing still down shifts automatically. If you continue doing this it will most likely cause premature wear!!!

When I start moving in slow traffic, it sometimes jerks into 1st gear, I remember this with my CVT on my '08 GTS but is this normal for the SST?
First and second can be jerky when the transmission is cold.

I'm not 100% sure what clutch slippage feels like but sometimes I feel like it is happening, is that normal for the SST?
?!?!? The clutches should be fine, unless you are putting down 320+whp.

Overall, what are some of the so called, "out of the ordinary" things that the SST does that I should not be worried about?
There are some little quirks, it took me a little while to get a good feel for the car. I highly highly highly recommend you do some research about the transmission and turbo systems to get a better understanding of how they work. It will really help you understand what is going on while you are driving. Also try out different driving techniques, etc. Nothing will replace real world experience.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rams3234
I have a couple other questions about the SST:

1) When I am in Manual Mode and I shift gears while taking my foot off the gas, the car jerks into gears, is that normal? Is it bad to take your foot off the gas to change gears in manual mode? It's just a habit of mine...
2) When I start moving in slow traffic, it sometimes jerks into 1st gear, I remember this with my CVT on my '08 GTS but is this normal for the SST?
3) I'm not 100% sure what clutch slippage feels like but sometimes I feel like it is happening, is that normal for the SST?
4) Overall, what are some of the so called, "out of the ordinary" things that the SST does that I should not be worried about?

Thanks in advance for your answers...


As sith killer said, you probably don't want to take your foot off the gas. The computer makes the engine rev-match with the gear changes, so pulling your foot off the gas is probably confusing the computer. Leave you foot in place.
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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Thanks for the answers Sith Killer, now back to my original question, if I am running stock, can I still Power Brake with the ASC off in sport mode safely? I did this once as I said and I feel like I ruined the clutches, can I ruin the clutches with 1 Power Brake launch? Or does it take many? I leased my RA so I can't return the thing completely broken you know?
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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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I am running stock, can I still Power Brake with the ASC off in sport mode safely?
Honestly, IMO, it's still too early to say for sure. A lot of guys have done it without any significant problems. Some people have reported problems with burning out the 1,3, and 5 clutch, likely due to launching. The most important factor would be technique. AMS uses launch when tracking their RA, they keep it at about 2,000 rpm's. So far so good, and they are pushing a lot of power.

I did this once as I said and I feel like I ruined the clutches, can I ruin the clutches with 1 Power Brake launch?
It all depends on how hard you launched, launching at 3,000 one time should be fine, I would think. You have to understand that pressing the brake, just a little, causes the clutches to disengage. The harder you release the brake the harder the clutches will engage and thus more abuse. It's all about technique. I doubt that you did enough damage to cause the clutches to start slipping.

Just remember if/when you decide to try to launch the car keep the rpm's low 2,000 or just over and don't just jerk your foot off the brake. The best way I've heard it described is like you stepped in dog poo, your foot goes down then you pull back, that's about the speed you want to let off of the brake, like you're pull your foot out of dog poo.
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