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Old Jun 5, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Couldn't stand it anymore.

My rant thread...I wasn't satisfied with the R/A and wish Mitsubishi made more considerations with the design of the R/A in making a "detuned" version of the Evo.

So I sold my 2009 Ralliart and bought a 2006 STi and finally comfortable with the speed, handling and quality of the Subaru over the Ralliart.

I lost just over 2k selling it, but I am overall satisfied with the STi. The entire detuned Evo had me sold when buying, but it seems that it was an overstatement considering it almost has nothing in common with the Evo. Comparing a STi to a base Impreza is closer than comparing an R/A to a Evo.

Mitsubishi could've kept the same motor and transmission on the new Ralliart, but keeping the same underpinnings the same as the GST was a bad move, especially for those that may desire upgrading components in the aftermarket with Evo parts than GST part.

Hopefully, Mitsubishi next rendition of the Ralliart will share the layout of the Evo with less expensive components. The MS3, Civic Si, as well as the turbo Cobalt SS are better deals compared to the R/A and would probably be driving either of the two if I had made a more informative decision before purchasing the R/A last year.

This isn't a knock on the Ralliart, I think there is a lot to be desired when driving a R/A, the transmission is great (SSport mode would have been great with LC, but maybe overkill for 240hp), the motor is outstanding the, 4B11-t is a great successor to the 4G63, the all-wheel drive system is ok-but a Japan spec IX would have been nicer if it included its SAYC, but we get the US spec leftovers.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Well there's no comparison performance wise... but some people need the auto.... Also some people (like me) can't get past the looks of all the wrx's in general.... Hope you're happy with your car which it looks like you are. In the end it's what you're happy with. Congrats on the purchase
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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So you joined Evom just to tell us you sold your RA for an STi, you indicate you probably would have bought just about any other hot hatch, and you list numerous complaints about your RA...but your not knocking it? I don't know why you wasted your time registering, other than that you have a higher opinion of yourself than others have of you.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SotA
My rant thread...I wasn't satisfied with the R/A and wish Mitsubishi made more considerations with the design of the R/A in making a "detuned" version of the Evo.

So I sold my 2009 Ralliart and bought a 2006 STi and finally comfortable with the speed, handling and quality of the Subaru over the Ralliart.

I lost just over 2k selling it, but I am overall satisfied with the STi. The entire detuned Evo had me sold when buying, but it seems that it was an overstatement considering it almost has nothing in common with the Evo. Comparing a STi to a base Impreza is closer than comparing an R/A to a Evo.

Mitsubishi could've kept the same motor and transmission on the new Ralliart, but keeping the same underpinnings the same as the GST was a bad move, especially for those that may desire upgrading components in the aftermarket with Evo parts than GST part.

Hopefully, Mitsubishi next rendition of the Ralliart will share the layout of the Evo with less expensive components. The MS3, Civic Si, as well as the turbo Cobalt SS are better deals compared to the R/A and would probably be driving either of the two if I had made a more informative decision before purchasing the R/A last year.

This isn't a knock on the Ralliart, I think there is a lot to be desired when driving a R/A, the transmission is great (SSport mode would have been great with LC, but maybe overkill for 240hp), the motor is outstanding the, 4B11-t is a great successor to the 4G63, the all-wheel drive system is ok-but a Japan spec IX would have been nicer if it included its SAYC, but we get the US spec leftovers.

my ralliart would outhandle and walk all over your stock 2006 sti.

I guess mitsubishi didnt miss the boat, you just didnt research or try hard enough.

Anyways with 3 posts this clearly wont effect our lil community much. Good luck with the subbie.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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my ralliart would outhandle and walk all over your stock 2006 sti.

I guess mitsubishi didnt miss the boat, you just didnt research or try hard enough.

Anyways with 3 posts this clearly wont effect our lil community much. Good luck with the subbie.

I wasn't knocking the community, I wasn't impressed with the car. I didn't research the car enough, that is true, and if I did I wouldn't have been here.

I have a account here, but cannot access my e-mail without a card reader from work. I have posted before as well as used the FS forums to sell my black taillights.

I seriously doubt that any Ralliart will outperform an STi in any category except maybe acceleration with after-market bolt-ons.

The Ralliart is so limited and its potential as well. The after-market support is small and will never reach any substantial steps into increasing the R/A's abilities as to its namesake.

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Old Jun 5, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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Well there's no comparison performance wise... but some people need the auto.... Also some people (like me) can't get past the looks of all the wrx's in general.... Hope you're happy with your car which it looks like you are. In the end it's what you're happy with. Congrats on the purchase

I fully understand the the need for an automatic and the R/A's TC-SST is great for both worlds-manual and automatic. I think CVTs are a gimmick, and Mitsubushi has one of the more affordable and better versions of SSTs, like the VW's DST-though I prefer the manual versions.

As far as looks, the Evolution is beautiful, and wish Mitsubishi took more cues from the Evo when designing the Ralliart. My main complaint wasn't so much the looks of the Ralliart it was the overall performance and daily enjoyment of owning a boosted car. The Ralliart in my opinion is too tame, and doesn't offer much in terms of aftermarket support that the Evo has or even the WRX or STi.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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the car offers the same aftermarket support that an evo does. The engine is the same. Suspension wise there are coil overs, brake upgrades, sway bars, h braces, springs, lots of others that are available as well.

A lil bit of research would have lead you to these.

And i will easily out preform a stock sti on a straight or circlular track.

And i still cost less, have nicer seats, and the awc control.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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I dont blame you SotA, I think about trading my car in all the time.
Just started looking at used diesel trucks for my trade.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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I dont blame you SotA, I think about trading my car in all the time.
Just started looking at used diesel trucks for my trade.

yeah but you have self inflicted tranny issues. Thats different.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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the car offers the same aftermarket support that an evo does. The engine is the same. Suspension wise there are coil overs, brake upgrades, sway bars, h braces, springs, lots of others that are available as well.

A lil bit of research would have lead you to these.

And i will easily out preform a stock sti on a straight or circlular track.

And i still cost less, have nicer seats, and the awc control.

How much will all this cost to outperform an STI or even a VIII or IX? Now you are entering GSR territory.

You cannot believe your car will hang on against any STI in any sanctioned SCCA event-with the mods you will be fighting against tuned STIs and Evos. Not sure of the class the R/A falls under, but I am sure tuned/base WRXs, CobaltSS, SRT-4s, MS3s, Minis, and other boosted cars will wreck the R/A.

The precision in the TC-SSCT won't save you. The weight and suspect suspension and brakes won't either. You can tune to your hearts content, but at the end of the day you may have a Evo engine, but you are basically tuning a Lancer GTS body.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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I dont blame you SotA, I think about trading my car in all the time.
Just started looking at used diesel trucks for my trade.

After seeing a new 2008 Evo GSR (dealer promo car) for the same price as the R/A I died a little inside. That was two weeks after I bought the R/A and regretted it ever since.

I don't knock the R/A, but it could've been a lot more, especially for the money. My fault, lesson learned. I bought it primarily for the snow, and with winter tires, it wasn't as "good" as I expected.
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my power numbers are equal to a bolt cobb stage 2 gsr, and bolt cobb stage 2 sti.

I also have suspension work done, lowered, h brace, sway bars etc. My suspension hung just fine with an evo 8 on coils, and evo 9 on coils with sway, and an x with lower springs last night without issue. They are all friends of mine, and i have no issues staying with any of them outside of the x in straight aways thanks to his fp green setup.

a tuned srt-4 stage runs around 275 to the wheels, owned one. the ms3 tuned is garbage, the turbo is too small. the cobalt is fwd and that hurts in on the course. tuned its about 290 to the wheels. A mini? really, lol kid. And i raced cobb stage 2 08+ sti's at the track last year when i was on 250 to the wheels and won. I have alot more power now.
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yeah but you have self inflicted tranny issues. Thats different.
Like hell I do.
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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^ lol RotorGlow what'd you do
Old Jun 5, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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^ lol RotorGlow what'd you do
he drove his car hard when he first got it " dont sit at a light with the gas down for more then 3 seconds guys as the the turbo begins to sputter" he used to launch it trying to learn how and wonders why it slips in 5th and 6th gear hahaha.



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