does anyone know for sure if you cobb accessport tune your car and return it back to stock flash before service can the dealer tell that you flashed it?

 

I am pretty sure they cant. I haven't had issues bringing my car in. I have talked to some dealer guys and heard the same.

 

they sure as hell can, but they would have to for some reason look at your ignition logs, and know enough to see the difference. dealers dont tend to do that.

 

correct. if they REALLY want/need to they can tell, but theyll have to do some real digging which most of us service dept guys dont do.

 

for clarification, you have to uninstall the AP. if you flash it with the "stock" map it will just be a stock-like map and not your actual stock map. so for all practical reasons, no they cant tell...

 

hmmmmm. 2-yes 2-no.

 

i also read that they can only tell that the ecu has been reset, not flashed. which you can reset just by unhooking the battery for a minute. so if they ask why it was reset you just tell them you unhooked the battery to work on the radio. i wonder if this is true?

 

I think people might be getting the question confused.

You can reflash a stock map onto the ECU or you can completely uninstall the AP and return the ECU to stock. I think those are 2 different things.

I'm curious also, would they be able to pick up the first or second scenario? Or neither or both?

 

if you uninstall the AP, the dealer will not be able to tell. why? because they use the MUT III tool which cant see every aspect of the ecu.

if you go to the dealer for major service mitsu forces the dealer to take pictures and a mitsu rep comes by to ok the service. if they pull your ecu and send it off to get diagnosed, they WILL be able to tell it was flashed, if they look in the right places.

the moral of the story? dont give them a reason to pull the ecu. if you really do need major service and you return it as close to stock as possible and they find out? well tough luck. thats what happens when you mod. but should you go nuts everytime you bring it to the dealer? no...

 

i enjoy how much heresay and unrelated unverified facts you tossed up with this post.

And for the record, the dealer can see what tune your running, via the last 50 inginition cycles, and the parameters associated with that.

.....make them take pictures.... LOL, dont make an isolated issue where you are somehow a LAW or RULE they have to follow, because they dont, and it isnt.

 

Westbound, you write like a lot like a guy who used to frequent this forum...but, guess the OP question is still somewhat unanswered. I guess if you give them a reason, stickers all over the car, or happen to mention something about a tune, they wouldn't waste time trying to expose your reflash history, etc. Like I said, I haven't had any issues. Good luck

 

hey im just repeating the gist of what i read on these boards to try and help. if its wrong, please correct, but you dont have to be a dick about it...

pictures? yes pictures!

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...ty-claims.html

 

What if i have a custom 3" cat-less full TBE and i got a problem with the power window button, do you think they can give me bs about the car being tuned and all and that i lost my warranty? I haven't been to the dealer yet, just got my 2011 ralliart, so i don't know their approach, but they guys at VW dealers all over SoCal gave me crap about my MK5 gti having simple electronical problems not being covered under warranty cause i had drag #s on my windows and nice exaust stickin out.

I know that the basic rule is that if the part that was changed on the vehicle caused the problem then its not covered under warranty, but if my radio goes out what does my "lack of cat, do you know its a 10K fine in CA" has to do with it?

Please fill me in and the op on how mitsu dealers approach tuned cars.. thanks in advance

 

I work for a company that is very strict with warrantys, I am a technician and when we see a device that's has for example some physical damage or any modification at all, the warranty for the hole device is now void.

It may be the same for mitsu. To be sure the best way to find the answer to your warranty questions is to look at the warranty book that comes with the car. That book my be completely boring but will give you all the details you could ever want on what's covered etc etc.

The warranty book states:

WHAT IS NOT COVERED
ALTERATION, MISUSE, OR ACCIDENT DAMAGE

Examples are:

Misusing your vehicle, such as, but not limited to, driving over curbs,
overloading, racing, or using your vehicle as a stationary power source.

Alteration or modification of your vehicle, including, but not limited to, the body,
chassis, braking system or other compenets.

Tampering with, or modification to emission control systems or with other parts
that affect these systems.

So to answer your question ramahskagromik, if they see the mods under the car and you come in for a power window issue, your warranty can be void because of the mods.

That being said, if we see that a customer that had accidentally damaged there device we can issue a coverage override. It may be similar with mitsu. But remember, the dealership gets money for the parts they order for in warranty repairs. If the issue is inexpensive to fix they may do it for ya, but because dealerships want your money they may not.