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Old May 5, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by blarbles
What annoys me is sport mode has to be set every time you start the car (does not remember last setting), and you cannot use cruise control on the highway in sport mode. These two things plus my laziness ends up with me driving it in normal mode for most shorter in-town and long highway trips.
Woulda been nice to see the TCSST switch between manual and auto just like the CVT =/

That's ok, honestly as a dd the auto isn't bad at all. I think i will keep this baby clean and stock looking. Very minor modding in the future, I really don't see any point having more than 250-300 hp/tq unless your racing it. This is my ultimate DD and i wanna keep it safe and sexy clean.

PS. THe future Economy at the moment really doesn't mak me feel safe spending over a grand or two on performance bolt on's. If I had no problem I'd spend over 5k, Coilovers, bigger turbo, AMS stage1/2, and Evo x wheels/tires/brakes. I just don't see the practicality.
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Old May 5, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jechttt
Woulda been nice to see the TCSST switch between manual and auto just like the CVT =/
Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean? Our cars do switch between manual and auto just fine (like you can leave it in auto, hit a paddle and you can shift manually until you come to a stop or pull on the + paddle till it goes back to auto).
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Old May 5, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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I must say, since making this post I've switched to 'Sport' Auto .. and yes, there is a huge difference!!! It shifts so much quicker and you can feel the difference in the clutch engaging!!
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Old May 5, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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What about gas consumption? Seems like my gas mileage goes down much faster when I am in sports manual...maybe its just me having fun
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Old May 5, 2011 | 05:44 PM
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What about gas consumption? Seems like my gas mileage goes down much faster when I am in sports manual...maybe its just me having fun
I'd say it's you having fun, I was averaging 10.7L/100kms today, not sure what that converts in to miles.
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Old May 5, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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I keep mine in beast mode; that's right, beast mode.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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we should do an MPGs comparison in sport mode vs auto mode

as for life of the clutches in sport vs auto... auto is less aggressive, and i would assume that like brakes, mashing on the brakes would cause the most wear instead of lightly coming to a stop... thereby using less fricton material. I would assume wet clutches would be the same?
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Old May 6, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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doesn't really matter. if the clutch goes, it goes. once i does im getting ssp clutches. those could take a "gunshot to the head" so to speak and walk away like it never happened. i hear they're very well built and can take nasty beatings.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by captobvious75
we should do an MPGs comparison in sport mode vs auto mode

as for life of the clutches in sport vs auto... auto is less aggressive, and i would assume that like brakes, mashing on the brakes would cause the most wear instead of lightly coming to a stop... thereby using less fricton material. I would assume wet clutches would be the same?
On GST tune my average was 28 mpg in Normal/Auto cruising on the interstate. On my current tune I've seen 30-32 mpg when lucky while cruising in Normal/Auto.

Consensus is Sports/Manual provides greater clutch pressure during shifts resulting in less slippage and increased life. Personally, I drive in Sports/Manual while in the city then switch to Normal/Auto when on the interstate w/ cruise control on. Remember, cruise control does not engage when in Sports mode.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by omegis
On GST tune my average was 28 mpg in Normal/Auto cruising on the interstate. On my current tune I've seen 30-32 mpg when lucky while cruising in Normal/Auto.

Consensus is Sports/Manual provides greater clutch pressure during shifts resulting in less slippage and increased life. Personally, I drive in Sports/Manual while in the city then switch to Normal/Auto when on the interstate w/ cruise control on. Remember, cruise control does not engage when in Sports mode.
how are you coming up with these mpg numbers? are u reading the display or actually calculating fuel usage at the pump? because those numbers are very high and seem a little exaggerated. i get 23mpg mixed city and highway at best, i shift around 2k and dont hit boost
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Old May 6, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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He's in beast mode. MPG number references not required.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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100% sure that sport mode increases throttle response, which I would guess decreases MPG

I have no idea how anyone gets over 25mpg. Every time I get onto the highway to cruise, I can never find that sweet-spot speed to make the bar go past 25mpg. I even watch my boost gauge to make sure I'm pressing the throttle as light as possible while still maintaining speed (seems to be -10 or -8 vacuum)

ultimately I just gave up. Even if I babied it for an extra 3-5mpg, I hardly saved that much in gas money. I'm having way more fun stepping on it - 4b11t mpg just sucks, get over it and have fun imo!
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Old May 6, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by total0wnage
how are you coming up with these mpg numbers? are u reading the display or actually calculating fuel usage at the pump? because those numbers are very high and seem a little exaggerated. i get 23mpg mixed city and highway at best, i shift around 2k and dont hit boost
Not talking about mixed mpg. Numbers based on resetting average mpg display while on cruise control on interstate to give average HIGHWAY mpg. Daily I drive 15-20 min on highway and 15-20 min city. Mixed mpg would probably be around 23-24 mpg if I combined highway + city. My statement was to show that while Mitsubishi estimates highway mpg @ 25 mpg, I've hit 28 mpg on GST tune and 30-32 mpg on English Racing tune. Besides, this was so much nicer when I had MMCS in my 09 GTS to see Instant Fuel Economy. Now I have to base it off resetting average mpg display at the start of my highway driving and document total average just prior to entering city driving.

I guess I could've explained that better in my previous post to not confuse the difference between highway mpg versus mixed mpg.

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Old May 6, 2011 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by newmitsuowner
doesn't really matter. if the clutch goes, it goes. once i does im getting ssp clutches. those could take a "gunshot to the head" so to speak and walk away like it never happened. i hear they're very well built and can take nasty beatings.
It's not the clutches you should be worried about. It should be everything else down stream that no one can service right now.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by omegis
On GST tune my average was 28 mpg in Normal/Auto cruising on the interstate. On my current tune I've seen 30-32 mpg when lucky while cruising in Normal/Auto.

Consensus is Sports/Manual provides greater clutch pressure during shifts resulting in less slippage and increased life. Personally, I drive in Sports/Manual while in the city then switch to Normal/Auto when on the interstate w/ cruise control on. Remember, cruise control does not engage when in Sports mode.
Just noticed I started rambling about Normal mode in a thread titled "Sport Mode".

Besides the theory that Sport mode can enhance clutch longevity, when I can be ignorant to rising gas prices, I have more fun using the flappy paddles in Sport mode during city driving.

*Disclaimer - I knew gas mileage wouldn't be awesome when I purchased the car*
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