I could have sworn I got in an argument with you at one time that a Evo can run circles around an RA. I knew, because I own both. Now you have owned both, and now you are agreeing with me.

 

LOL! I remember that thread. I guess when you own a RA and not an X, you always stick up for your RA. I remember making claims that my RA was faster than a stock Evo, and I was right. However, that Evo I raced isn't stock anymore, and on the track it would eat my RA alive. That's the way these things go... you will mod your car, then tell people that you're faster than, or you outhandle, a stock X. However, when you get to the track and you see an X, it's probably not stock, and suddenly all bets are off.

 

Oh, one other thing. All answers to why an X can be answered with "because racecar".

 

 

I have no idea to what you're referring...

 

I give the car its credit just not the drivers. When you put all the money into the car making into something it is not, any car can be a race car.

Some Evo owners spend alot of money to get their cars to do 400-500whp & turn around selling em because it is no longer cost effective to keep running high horse power cars or have parts failures that leads to blown motors etc.

The same old saying'
"You pay to play." Well I dont have unlimited budget & I play within my budget/means.
I would like to get some "Spirit of competition" going to measure where RA is lacking to improve our RA to be more competitive.

 

I agree. My reasons for switching are personal, and as such I can't tell you why I think you should buy an X. My reasons are based on where I'm working, what I want from the car, and the price I'm able to get. I don't know your situation, how you feel about the car, etc. If you can't justify it, don't do the trade. I don't have an unlimited budget, by any means, but I can justify the switch. I also have no doubt support for the RA platform will continue to improve as time goes on.

 

That's def the robispec KW's

my RA with the BC coils handled better than the stock X I have now

there's no real logical reason to trade up - it's an emotional purchase. if you don't track the car - and I mean race-track, not auto-x - then the RA is just as good, if not better, than the X

but the emotion of actually owning an Evo X is enough alone for most people to trade up

 

It is true. I have come full circle. There is no comparison.

 

If you are going to an MR or SE, then yes, the only differences are minor. The 5-speed is a whole different thing. I love the manual gearbox.

 

That sounds bad.

 

Pretty sure the Evo would rip a Ralliart a new one in autocross as well.

How are people quantifying their better handling claims? Skid pad? Slalom tests? The Evo also has S-AYC that the Ralliart doesn't have. I really doubt the difference is marginal and just because of the springs/struts/sway bars. There's really no need to try to rationalize owning a Ralliart by illogically trying to claim that the Evo isn't that much better of a car or that a Ralliart with X mods will be "just as good". The two cars are very different with very different intended purposes and very different advantages/disadvantages.

 

End thread now before feelings get hurt!!!

 

It was. He smelled smoke in the cabin, pulled over to see what was going on, and noticed flames from his hood scoop. He didn't want to open the hood because that's bad news if on fire, called the fire department. By the time they showed up, front end was gone.

 

just to toss a few more pennies into the 2 cents crowd:

i think the ra works great as a nimble daily driver that won't keep beating the crap out of you on a everyday basis...the x seems like a race car daily driver for people who don't mind the stiffer and less forgiving suspension...i doubt in real world daily driving (not street racing), the x would not be any better than a ra...on the track however, x all day long...plus with the ra, you get the cool (in my opinion) trans...

when you figure the cost differences between the 2 cars, i think the ra is a better daily driver (not to mention you can get it to stock x power for 3k plus or minus)

i once owned a zhp e46 330i (man), then went to a e46 m3 (smg)...the differences were about the same as above...the 330 was a fast and comfortable car (as to be expected) and the m3 was just a beast...its a race car that you can use as a daily driver, but the 330 was a more forgiving ride...the old lady was of the same opinion, she liked the 330.

bottom line, comes down to your driving and usage preferences...the ra is different car than the x cause its aimed at a different crowd...i think if someone wants an x, they shouldn't settle for the ra cause i think they would end up disappointed...just like i think someone shouldn't opt for the x unless they want a daily driven race car and all the good/bad that comes with it...

just my 2 cents...grin.



btw, hello guys...im new, but been stalking for awhile...feel like i already know some of you :-)