Let's talk about mpg
I've been tinkering with MIVEC, and get a consistent 30-32mpg on the highway....cruising at 80 mph. On top of that you can add 2-3* in your cruise region, that will get you better MPG. Remember, American OEM-tunes are all about emissions FIRST (why do we have to be so nice to the puss...just beat it up), then MPG. If you were to look at the exhaust system of most 'performance' cars who report higher MPG, you would find their cats are much closer to the engine vs Mitsu.
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I've been tinkering with MIVEC, and get a consistent 30-32mpg on the highway....cruising at 80 mph. On top of that you can add 2-3* in your cruise region, that will get you better MPG. Remember, American OEM-tunes are all about emissions FIRST (why do we have to be so nice to the puss...just beat it up), then MPG. If you were to look at the exhaust system of most 'performance' cars who report higher MPG, you would find their cats are much closer to the engine vs Mitsu.
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First, sorry if I write something wrong, i'm not good with engl...
I read a lot here and I see how bad is the ralliart and evo in mpg and I see over the internet and magazines other cars with much more hp, bigger engine and have better mpg. I know that everybody gone say"tune", my cars is already tune, "stay out of boost" I do people and other things but thats not my point to write here.
What is wrong here, engine design???? Is just a question I have in my mind for a lot of time
A few examples:
Hyundai sonata turbo
2.0Lturbo 274hp 28mpg
Porche panamera turbo
4.8L twin turbo v8 23mpg
Ford edge ecoboost turbo
2.0L turbo 247hp 30mpg
Ford mustang N/A
v6 305hp 30mpg
Subaru wrx turbo
265hp 25mpg
and a lot of cars, you can search over the internet. So the point is, what wrong with
I read a lot here and I see how bad is the ralliart and evo in mpg and I see over the internet and magazines other cars with much more hp, bigger engine and have better mpg. I know that everybody gone say"tune", my cars is already tune, "stay out of boost" I do people and other things but thats not my point to write here.
What is wrong here, engine design???? Is just a question I have in my mind for a lot of time
A few examples:
Hyundai sonata turbo
2.0Lturbo 274hp 28mpg
Porche panamera turbo
4.8L twin turbo v8 23mpg
Ford edge ecoboost turbo
2.0L turbo 247hp 30mpg
Ford mustang N/A
v6 305hp 30mpg
Subaru wrx turbo
265hp 25mpg
and a lot of cars, you can search over the internet. So the point is, what wrong with
My 08 Vette (6.2 L V8 430 HP) got 30-31 on the highway an averaged 22 in the same kind of driving as my RA. And no it didn't have cylinder deact either.
I'm not trying to dog Mitsu or the RA but it doesn't do that great mileage wise. I don't really mind however, it is still a blast to drive.
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Yeah MPG of my GTS CVT still sucks in comparison. It's been getting worse as well. I get 22 city in a 15 minute trip 5 miles away. Highway, a 35 minute drive might get me to 28, but I used to snag 32. I'll have to look into the MPG decrease, tires are pumped.
It seems like anything with a 2.0T gets better MPG than the RA.
It seems like anything with a 2.0T gets better MPG than the RA.
MPG can be effected by many things to include your cars maintenance and your driving habits. Don't just assume its all the cars fault. All my Mitsubishi's tend to get good mpg and always have.
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im curious what kinda of milage you guys get on your ralliarts, second tank having this car and i got 290 kilomiters on a tank, for some reason i dont see how this is possible after driving my rx8 for 6 years and would get 320-400 kms a tank and that was always high reving
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If I put my "good driver" halo on, I get around 10 litres per 100km. That's mixed freeway + suburban driving. So if I'm driving in a well-behaved manner, I'll fill 45 litres at about the 450km mark.
If I put my "bad driver" horns on and spend some quality time logging 3rd gear pulls, flicking through those playstation gears at WOT, etc., I'll be lucky to reach 350km by the same fill-up point.
Edit: dje88, you're obviously winding it up and having fun!
It's a heavy car, and it's tuned well on the rich side from factory. Getting into boost will absolutely gobble fuel... as you've found!
Rich
If I put my "bad driver" horns on and spend some quality time logging 3rd gear pulls, flicking through those playstation gears at WOT, etc., I'll be lucky to reach 350km by the same fill-up point.
Edit: dje88, you're obviously winding it up and having fun!
It's a heavy car, and it's tuned well on the rich side from factory. Getting into boost will absolutely gobble fuel... as you've found!Rich
Last edited by richardjh; Dec 13, 2011 at 05:13 AM.
im curious what kinda of milage you guys get on your ralliarts, second tank having this car and i got 290 kilomiters on a tank, for some reason i dont see how this is possible after driving my rx8 for 6 years and would get 320-400 kms a tank and that was always high reving
The combination of very short gearing in the sst, heavy weight for its class, and awd, really hurt the RA and evo X mpgs. My 05 WRX got much better mileage. I attribue that to tall gears, lighter weight and more fuel efficient engine design.
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I think there are 3 factors at work here:
1. AFR from the factory is way rich, at boost it just dumps gobs of fuel, this is our #1 enemy of MPG's, a tune will help but...
2. If you leave the car in D it will ring out gears at just 25% throttle. I have been manual shifting for the last 2 days to work with no traffic and I was able to hit 29MPG today. I have no tune or mods to the engine yet. I was just shifting earlier than the car would in D and being light on the throttle. It even shifted a little smoother.
3. Tires, we run a good sticky tire on the RA from the factory, other turbo cars that get 30+ MPG don't. My wife works for Kia and I can beak the tires on an Optima and set off the Traction Control on it, just for fun I make the tires wail like a banshee on interchanges, something I can not do in the RA.
1. AFR from the factory is way rich, at boost it just dumps gobs of fuel, this is our #1 enemy of MPG's, a tune will help but...
2. If you leave the car in D it will ring out gears at just 25% throttle. I have been manual shifting for the last 2 days to work with no traffic and I was able to hit 29MPG today. I have no tune or mods to the engine yet. I was just shifting earlier than the car would in D and being light on the throttle. It even shifted a little smoother.
3. Tires, we run a good sticky tire on the RA from the factory, other turbo cars that get 30+ MPG don't. My wife works for Kia and I can beak the tires on an Optima and set off the Traction Control on it, just for fun I make the tires wail like a banshee on interchanges, something I can not do in the RA.
Last edited by punksmurph; Dec 13, 2011 at 11:07 AM.
Im currently on E85 and with my tune and bolts on listed in my sig i was able to average 18.9 mpg going on average of (), well faster than i should be :] for a total of about 275 miles at which point i had to refuel. (math - 275miles with 14.5 gallons = 18.9655mpg)
This for E85 isnt to bad considering the speed and the fact that it uses ~30% more fuel. (Math -[18.9 * 100] / 70 = ~27mpg if using gas)
Just my $0.02 :]
Hint - The () buttons without holding shift :]
This for E85 isnt to bad considering the speed and the fact that it uses ~30% more fuel. (Math -[18.9 * 100] / 70 = ~27mpg if using gas)
Just my $0.02 :]
Hint - The () buttons without holding shift :]
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Yeah MPG of my GTS CVT still sucks in comparison. It's been getting worse as well. I get 22 city in a 15 minute trip 5 miles away. Highway, a 35 minute drive might get me to 28, but I used to snag 32. I'll have to look into the MPG decrease, tires are pumped.
It seems like anything with a 2.0T gets better MPG than the RA.
It seems like anything with a 2.0T gets better MPG than the RA.
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I get 18 city and 25 highway and my car is 100% stock.
I get that MPG on 93 octane gas, sometimes it has 10% ethanol.
I understood well that the car would have a huge demand for fuel, but I wanted something that was very fun to drive, had a turbo engine, was not FWD, and had a dual clutch paddle shift transmission.
I get that MPG on 93 octane gas, sometimes it has 10% ethanol.
I understood well that the car would have a huge demand for fuel, but I wanted something that was very fun to drive, had a turbo engine, was not FWD, and had a dual clutch paddle shift transmission.