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Old Apr 10, 2010, 10:32 AM
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The factory solenoid is in a bleeder configuration. Even at 100 duty cycle some pressure reaches the wastegate actuator. Like you said, the boost pill slows airflow to both the solenoid and the actuator. If you use a 3-port solenoid, you can set it up in an interrupt config. I am having good success using this method.
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I've experienced a weird issue on a customer RA, first time I see that.

He just got some gauge and we noticed in manual mode he's lean but when he switch to automatic sport mode he's rich. And by lean I mean 12.6 and rich 10.1.

I've started to wonder if my tune got something bad so I took the 93 basemap with pill directly from what's posted in the first post as is and the same issue occur.

He goes from 12.9 full boost in manual mode to a 10.3 full boost in automatic sports mode.

IDC are fine, no WGDC correction, fuel trim are at 1.2% cruise and 0.8 idle.
What's the relation between the air fuel and what mode the transmission is in?

Never saw any difference on my RA or on a MR so
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Originally Posted by Kasander
I've experienced a weird issue on a customer RA, first time I see that.

He just got some gauge and we noticed in manual mode he's lean but when he switch to automatic sport mode he's rich. And by lean I mean 12.6 and rich 10.1.

I've started to wonder if my tune got something bad so I took the 93 basemap with pill directly from what's posted in the first post as is and the same issue occur.

He goes from 12.9 full boost in manual mode to a 10.3 full boost in automatic sports mode.

IDC are fine, no WGDC correction, fuel trim are at 1.2% cruise and 0.8 idle.
What's the relation between the air fuel and what mode the transmission is in?

Never saw any difference on my RA or on a MR so
What if you do a couple pulls back to back in manual, then the same couple pulls back to back in auto?

I'm willing to bet the first pull will be leaner at peak boost then the next couple pulls in the same mode.

Welcome to lean spool.

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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
What if you do a couple pulls back to back in manual, then the same couple pulls back to back in auto?

I'm willing to bet the first pull will be leaner at peak boost then the next couple pulls in the same mode.

Welcome to lean spool.

- Bryan
Speaking of lean spool, do you like it, and more importantly do you have tables to control it for the ralliart?

Later,

Keith
Old May 10, 2010, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
What if you do a couple pulls back to back in manual, then the same couple pulls back to back in auto?

I'm willing to bet the first pull will be leaner at peak boost then the next couple pulls in the same mode.

Welcome to lean spool.

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Yup my files got mixed up with the files I have it off and I realised that in your basemap it's on as well.

It make sense to call it lean spool but even after the "spool" the car stay lean more then I like. I'll try with it off.

It's off in all my files except that one make sense why I never saw that behavior before. I'll give it a shot with a few pull in manual and a few pull in auto with it on and with it off.

Thanks Bryan.
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Originally Posted by Kasander


Yup my files got mixed up with the files I have it off and I realised that in your basemap it's on as well.

It make sense to call it lean spool but even after the "spool" the car stay lean more then I like. I'll try with it off.

It's off in all my files except that one make sense why I never saw that behavior before. I'll give it a shot with a few pull in manual and a few pull in auto with it on and with it off.

Thanks Bryan.
Yup but every subsequent gear will get richer and richer with lean spool *on*

- Bryan
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
Yup but every subsequent gear will get richer and richer with lean spool *on*

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Ok but once you start back from a stop, the process will happen all over again I guess.

I mean there's no learning factor involved, it's just going richer and richer as long as you continue going but the process start all over again if you let off the gas, correct?

I was on the impression that lean spool would just make the spool leaner but goes right back at the map settings (with LTFT affecting WOT disabled) but it's more an ongoing process as I can see.

Thanks again!
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Hi Bryan,

Thanks again for the basemap.

As I am still getting the P1235 CEL and it is 80F, would you suggest reflashing with the 93octane cold weather tune?
I can trigger a CEL by cruising in normal or sport mode (not manual) 3rd gear @ 2kish rpm, then going WOT. The CEL lights up before the car downshifts, then is in limp mode.
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Originally Posted by Alterna
Hi Bryan,

Thanks again for the basemap.

As I am still getting the P1235 CEL and it is 80F, would you suggest reflashing with the 93octane cold weather tune?
I can trigger a CEL by cruising in normal or sport mode (not manual) 3rd gear @ 2kish rpm, then going WOT. The CEL lights up before the car downshifts, then is in limp mode.
Are you running that map on a modded car or it's bone stock?

Bryan stated those map where for stock car. If you're modded you'll have that P1235 because your boosting too much/increased airflow and you're hitting the airflow/torque limit table.

The same process occur during winter on a stock car because the air is colder and it increase the airflow.

So if your modded get that map tuned for the car or keep using the cold weather one and you won't have that code.

But monitor knock, boost and air fuel closely if you're modded.
Just bypassing the limit won't make the car run safer, in fact you're bypassing part of the safety.
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No HP mods on mine. UICP, Evo X intercooler, Forge BPV, HKS filter.
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Originally Posted by Alterna
No HP mods on mine. UICP, Evo X intercooler, Forge BPV, HKS filter.
You just listed 3 mods that will give you more power and airflow.
UICP
Evo X intercooler
HKS Filter.

That's a modded car
Bryan said for stock car only.
That's why you are having those issues

Get the car tuned for the mod you've done and you won't have that code anymore.
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Originally Posted by Alterna
Hi Bryan,

Thanks again for the basemap.

As I am still getting the P1235 CEL and it is 80F, would you suggest reflashing with the 93octane cold weather tune?
I can trigger a CEL by cruising in normal or sport mode (not manual) 3rd gear @ 2kish rpm, then going WOT. The CEL lights up before the car downshifts, then is in limp mode.
Did you try the Beta map yet?

- Bryan
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
Did you try the Beta map yet?

- Bryan
Hey Bryan what changes are in the Beta maps compared to the older 91 Octane w/ Boost Pill upgrade? Anything worth noting?

Thanks
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
Yup but every subsequent gear will get richer and richer with lean spool *on*

- Bryan
Lean spool off, fixed it.
Since my laptop crashed I lost a few of my map and the restore I did on the laptop was with lean spool on.

Now it works fine at least it follow the fuel map.

Thanks for the hint.
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
Did you try the Beta map yet?

- Bryan
what is the difference between the beta 93 oct map and the one on the first post


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