I'm sorry but the TC-SST is not a manual transmission given the generally accepted definition of a manual transmission vehicle. There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling the TC-SST what it is, a technologically advanced automatic. If user input is enough to make a manual, those shifttronic/sporttronic torque converter based transmissions would be considered manuals as well.

 

Is this your daily driver?? If it is I think the RA was the right call. My buddy with the Evo MR Premium dropped over 50 large, and he wished he would have saved 15K and got the RA with the Premium pkg. I love going on short rides in his wheels, but every time we go to Calgary in the MR and we feel everyone of those jarring highway expansion seams between Scott Lake Hill C.O.P, I count my lucky stars.

 

I agree, but thats not the point. The point is some cocky "real men" like to infer that us manumatic drivers aren't "real" car enthusiasts, like we aren't "real"men because we drive "ladies" transmissions. I have such an idiot at work and he outright says that, just to push our buttons. It's because of jerks like that some of us are a bit too touchy when this subject comes up. But since there is no point even talking about it because it's just the crap disturbers that always try to instigate stuff, and as others have said this has been well discussed anyway, so put a sock into it. No sock? Stick one of these in it then

 

You mean driving a manual is like riding a bike not falling from one... lol
I just wanted to quote since it gave me a good laugh haha

 

Well they're right . Seriously though, saying that the TC-SST is a manual, that clutch pedals are dead, that it's the same transmission as in WRC/F1, etc, etc. only adds fuel to the fire. It's not a manual and it's not a big deal. I really don't understand this mentality of saying things you know are wrong simply to counter a point you don't like. I drive a ****ing Miata for god's sake, I get the "it's a girls car" comments all the damn time and I don't care. I'm certainly not going to resort to calling it a muscle car or anything like that. Standing by a false position only makes you look foolish.

 

how about we call it an........ Automated-Manual?
Lets stop the pissing match and get back on topic for those that are really interested in what it takes to achieve what ever desired HP.

 

Im in for that.

 

i think i saw you taking a right onto the highway from east side mario area yesterday..

If not, thats the only blk RA i have seen in town.

 

nope! must be two then. I Live in Oyama and work in Armstrong everyday now. a Highway machine with 34k on it now! Almost time for a turbo swap....Speaking of OP'r question, Anyone in western Canada got a X turbo they wana get rid of? Sounds like that would be what I"m looking for to achieve the almighty 300, I'm also after.

 

"Stirring up stuff" indeed.

The point of this thread is what again? Oh, yeah: How to make 300/300 on a RA. Maybe I should give you a refresher on the discussion:

AMS stated that they were unable to get the TC-SST to hold 300 wtq for a prolonged period of time. That means that something has to be done with the transmission. Only a couple of options are available at the moment, all of which involve very invasive modifications to a $10,000 part that would not be covered under warranty. Not to mention the fact that those options for modifying the TC-SST cost a considerable amount of money in their own right. The conclusion of this discussion was that, if someone really wants 300/300, he/she should have bought a GSR.

Since the GSR is ONLY available in M/T, I simply asked: For how many RA drivers is that actually an option?

I'd say I was pretty on point with the discussion and not "stirring up stuff" at all.

 

+$1500 for a good suspension
+$3000 for turbo and tune
+$500 for trans cooler to keep the TCSST running at high power
+$100 for other misc required parts.
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$44,900

....still $10,000 cheaper than an Evo MR, and at the very least equivalent, but most likely better. ;-)

 

Clearly you weren't a math whiz in high school. You're forgetting a variety of things. The MR has Brembo brakes all the way around, which are likely a 3000-5000$ upgrade, if you can even find equivalent aftermarket pieces. The TC-SST in the MR appears to be slightly different given that it can hold more power than that in the Ralliart. This may require a tune in itself or internal modifications/swap. For ****s and giggles we'll call that 1000$ although it could easily balloon to 5000$+. The MR also has different differentials, including a rear unit that has S-AYC. That's a pricey upgrade if you can even swap it in. Lets not forget that the MR also comes with wheels and tires so wide that the Ralliart cannot use them without rolling the fenders.
People are extremely naive if they honestly think they can produce a better package than OEM for cheaper. OEM puts in hundreds of hours of research, testing and development into their cars and their parts and since they generally make cars in huge batches, their cost is substantially lower than in the aftermarket community thus your cost is substantially lower.
Edit: The prices you use in your initial list are also wrong, you won't get a good suspension setup for 1500$ CAD, try 3000$-10000$. Same goes for the turbo and tune, you need the turbo, the exhaust manifold, exhaust system, intercooler, piping and possibly other supporting mods. I could see that ballooning to 5000$ easily if you want decent parts.

 

^ Sheesh Amby the extra $900.00 is for beer and wings during build up As a Canadian you shoulda known that was a given.

 

I assumed it was for MR badges so people could at least pretend their car was as good as an MR for cheaper.

 

The one thing I will say in response to that is, while you can't match the EVO MR's performance given the price difference, the more you spend means that you can, eventually, out match a stock EVO MR's performance. I don't want to get into an argument over "what about a modified MR?" because, obviously, the MR comes out-of-the gate with major advantages.

That aside, I'm starting to think that, if a 300/300 RA is the ultimate goal, a M/T swap might not be out of the question. I'm not sure what the best tranny to swap in would be or exactly how much would be involved in the swap, but it does seem like one of the better options given: 1) the power constraints of the TC-SST; 2) the price of a replacement TC-SST; 3) the potential price of maintaining a TC-SST; etc. Just throwing it out there...