How to make 300/300 on an RA?
Oh I see where this is going. Wait, if you're 15, how can you have your own car let alone the other 5 listed in your profile?
Last edited by ambystom01; Jan 6, 2010 at 09:07 PM.
Clearly you weren't a math whiz in high school. You're forgetting a variety of things. The MR has Brembo brakes all the way around, which are likely a 3000-5000$ upgrade, if you can even find equivalent aftermarket pieces. The TC-SST in the MR appears to be slightly different given that it can hold more power than that in the Ralliart. This may require a tune in itself or internal modifications/swap. For ****s and giggles we'll call that 1000$ although it could easily balloon to 5000$+. The MR also has different differentials, including a rear unit that has S-AYC. That's a pricey upgrade if you can even swap it in. Lets not forget that the MR also comes with wheels and tires so wide that the Ralliart cannot use them without rolling the fenders.
People are extremely naive if they honestly think they can produce a better package than OEM for cheaper. OEM puts in hundreds of hours of research, testing and development into their cars and their parts and since they generally make cars in huge batches, their cost is substantially lower than in the aftermarket community thus your cost is substantially lower.
Edit: The prices you use in your initial list are also wrong, you won't get a good suspension setup for 1500$ CAD, try 3000$-10000$. Same goes for the turbo and tune, you need the turbo, the exhaust manifold, exhaust system, intercooler, piping and possibly other supporting mods. I could see that ballooning to 5000$ easily if you want decent parts.
People are extremely naive if they honestly think they can produce a better package than OEM for cheaper. OEM puts in hundreds of hours of research, testing and development into their cars and their parts and since they generally make cars in huge batches, their cost is substantially lower than in the aftermarket community thus your cost is substantially lower.
Edit: The prices you use in your initial list are also wrong, you won't get a good suspension setup for 1500$ CAD, try 3000$-10000$. Same goes for the turbo and tune, you need the turbo, the exhaust manifold, exhaust system, intercooler, piping and possibly other supporting mods. I could see that ballooning to 5000$ easily if you want decent parts.
Last edited by 03chi-town0Z; Jan 7, 2010 at 08:34 AM. Reason: add
exchange rate is actually pretty good.
we get killed with brokerage though. I find UPS is the worst. I try to either get my **** sent up fedex or USPS. USPS being the cheapest method.
just a tip and i know this is off topic. if any of the other fellow canadian owners here didn't already know. you can request to broker your package yourself when a vendor has shipped threw UPS. just get the waybill and call UPS right away to advise them. the package will arrive at your local distribution centre and you'll get a phone call advising. you then go and get the customs paperwork from UPS. then proceed with that to your Canada Customs outlet. (usually at the airport) give documents to customs. pay your duty on it. they stamp document and you return to UPS and pickup your package. you just saved yourself in some cases 80 dollars on brokerage fees from those crooks also known as UPS.
we get killed with brokerage though. I find UPS is the worst. I try to either get my **** sent up fedex or USPS. USPS being the cheapest method.
just a tip and i know this is off topic. if any of the other fellow canadian owners here didn't already know. you can request to broker your package yourself when a vendor has shipped threw UPS. just get the waybill and call UPS right away to advise them. the package will arrive at your local distribution centre and you'll get a phone call advising. you then go and get the customs paperwork from UPS. then proceed with that to your Canada Customs outlet. (usually at the airport) give documents to customs. pay your duty on it. they stamp document and you return to UPS and pickup your package. you just saved yourself in some cases 80 dollars on brokerage fees from those crooks also known as UPS.
Alright, back on track:
I have never modified a turbocharged car before, so this question/statement might be retarded. But, I am operating under the assumption that our stock TD04HL-15t/7 turbo is no different from any other MHI turbo, and the compressor should be easy to swap out (people have been doing this on Subaru's for years with TD04 family turbos). Therefore, it seems to me that you could probably upgrade the compressor on the turbocharger from the small factory 15t to a larger 16t/17t/18t or even 19t (used on the Volvo S60R which makes about 300/300 stock). Would it make sense to do that instead of just out right buying an EVO X turbo setup? I mean, the compressor itself is probably much cheaper than an entirely new EVO X TS unit and the exhaust manifold is maintained from the stock car. A TBE, IC, Intake, and tune, and even on a heartbreaker dyno, wouldn't you be in the ballpark of 300/300 with a 19t compressor?
(Sorry, like I said, I am a n00b when it comes to turbo tuning.)
I have never modified a turbocharged car before, so this question/statement might be retarded. But, I am operating under the assumption that our stock TD04HL-15t/7 turbo is no different from any other MHI turbo, and the compressor should be easy to swap out (people have been doing this on Subaru's for years with TD04 family turbos). Therefore, it seems to me that you could probably upgrade the compressor on the turbocharger from the small factory 15t to a larger 16t/17t/18t or even 19t (used on the Volvo S60R which makes about 300/300 stock). Would it make sense to do that instead of just out right buying an EVO X turbo setup? I mean, the compressor itself is probably much cheaper than an entirely new EVO X TS unit and the exhaust manifold is maintained from the stock car. A TBE, IC, Intake, and tune, and even on a heartbreaker dyno, wouldn't you be in the ballpark of 300/300 with a 19t compressor?
(Sorry, like I said, I am a n00b when it comes to turbo tuning.)
I would just buy a used stock Evo X turbo and manifold. There's no point in installing an aftermarket turbo if the Ralliart can't hold the power that it's capable of producing.
The more I look at it, the more I realize that I should have waited to buy the EVO MR. I am $2,000 deep in this car already, and everything mentioned above is more on the order of $10,000. I met someone awhile back who bought an EVO MR for $29,995 out the door (it even had factory navigation). FML.
I think they're referring to the drivetrain which is effectively the differentials. The hubs aren't the same given that the Ralliart cannot simply bolt on the Evo Brembos and I think a few people have used GTS suspension parts (springs, coilovers) on their Ralliarts. If the Ralliart has the same or similar suspension to the IX then so does the GTS.
I think they're referring to the drivetrain which is effectively the differentials. The hubs aren't the same given that the Ralliart cannot simply bolt on the Evo Brembos and I think a few people have used GTS suspension parts (springs, coilovers) on their Ralliarts. If the Ralliart has the same or similar suspension to the IX then so does the GTS.
