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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 06:12 AM
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I usually drive with the "ASC" turned OFF because I heard that by turning it off you can reduce lag time off a dead stop just a bit. This might be an "illusion" as well, but I do get the feeling that it makes a slight improvement in the lag time. Anybody else tried it?
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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Slee256
I usually drive with the "ASC" turned OFF because I heard that by turning it off you can reduce lag time off a dead stop just a bit. This might be an "illusion" as well, but I do get the feeling that it makes a slight improvement in the lag time. Anybody else tried it?
I realize that as well. But i also realize my gas goes down faster with it off, it could just be me

This seems like a cool product and i wouldn't mind tryin it. But $330 is jus a bit out of my range right now. All these dumb arguments need to stop, it improves throttle response. Why argue with a fact that has been proven? The OP never said it makes the world spin faster when accelerating.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by xi

Classic.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by brads09lancerGT
How is that possible when Sprint Booster clearly states that their product doesn't reduce 0-60 times?
Line up a pig and a donkey, slap them both on the *** at the same time and see who gets to the 60 foot faster. More than likely it would be the donkey which represents the RA with the SB module.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by boondoc
Line up a pig and a donkey, slap them both on the *** at the same time and see who gets to the 60 foot faster. More than likely it would be the donkey which represents the RA with the SB module.

hopefully it isnt manic depressive like eor.

And amby left is nerdo foot print all over yet another thread he doesn't approve of. Still waiting for it to get cleaned up.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by secondchace
hopefully it isnt manic depressive like eor.

And amby left is nerdo foot print all over yet another thread he doesn't approve of. Still waiting for it to get cleaned up.
OK seriously, why should my comments be deleted? Do they include flaming? No, are they off-topic? No, are they offensive in any way? No. I'm pointing out rather glaring problems in what people are saying about this product. This has nothing to do with not approving of this thread, I'm not some old plantation owner sitting on his front porch scowling at people, it's an attempt to get people to actually think about what they're saying. Unfortunately there is a lot of shady things in the automotive community and once you lose your critical edge, you're asking for problems.
boondoc, If you're drag racing and testing 0-60 and 60 ft times, are you going WOT? If you are, the SB won't help a significant amount.

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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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they are negative to the topic plan and simple.

You write replies for the sake of seeing your own writing. Its a common complex more noted for talking but you certainly have it when a keyboard is concerned.

And a 60 foot time can be affected, regardless of WOT, and physics is concerned( when the car is launched from idle). But until i test it, there is no point in giving you more entertainment.

As for losing my edge in the market. I am TESTING THE PRODUCT. I havent purchased it, its a TEST. Im giving the market a new set of eyes and replies to consider when making or not making this purchase. This is a review of the product on OUR CAR, not a subaru or any of the negative or positive crap you've heard before. The simple fact you don't know the car and how it can change in feel and retrospect makes everything you claim invalid.

If i thought we could co exist in a car and debate the merits without issues arising i would pick you up and show you the 2 different sides.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by secondchace
they are negative to the topic plan and simple.

You write replies for the sake of seeing your own writing. Its a common complex more noted for talking but you certainly have it when a keyboard is concerned.

And a 60 foot time can be affected, regardless of WOT, and physics is concerned( when the car is launched from idle). But until i test it, there is no point in giving you more entertainment.

As for losing my edge in the market. I am TESTING THE PRODUCT. I havent purchased it, its a TEST. Im giving the market a new set of eyes and replies to consider when making or not making this purchase. This is a review of the product on OUR CAR, not a subaru or any of the negative or positive crap you've heard before. The simple fact you don't know the car and how it can change in feel and retrospect makes everything you claim invalid.

If i thought we could co exist in a car and debate the merits without issues arising i would pick you up and show you the 2 different sides.
What's the topic plan, to promote Sprint Booster?
The maker of the Sprint Booster clearly states that is has no affect on 0-60 or 1/4 mile times, why do you think they say this?
I've asked very simple questions which have gone completely unanswered. I've provided a very nice link to some testing using the SB which has gone unnoticed. Hell, I've even used direct quotes from the manufacturer yet, since I drive a Subaru, my "claims" are invalid. Sorry but that makes no sense.
This whole thread honestly reminds me of miracle drug testing.
"Hey guys, I tried these new UltraNRGY pills and they totally work. I feel stronger, faster and more muscular. Even though the maker only says I feel like this, I'm pretty sure I could lift more weight and run faster."
"How's that possible, the pills have been tested and they're just sugar pills with a bit of caffeine added."
"**** you, that's how."
"No seriously, how's that possible?"
"You haven't tried them so you can't judge."
"I'm actually curious how they can do all these things you claim when the manufacturer even disagrees with you."
"You're just a jerk, my body obviously reacts different so shut up."

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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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whatever you say child. Ill wait to test and see what others say.

I realize it claims it cant effect the 60 foot time directly. However, the ralliart delay from an idle is quite significant and the removal of that, or a portion, will effect that time, in that situation. Is it one we will run into racing often, no, but the fact remains. How you fail to grasp that simple idea is beyond me and many on here.

As for you claims being invalid. I was referring to simple information you are using from your own experiences and stories you've heard of said application on other vehicles. Just because its like it there, that has no bearing on this situation, and claiming it does, or that because it this situation would be exact, is simply invalid.

the miracle drug comment is a fail at best. As stated if you are so inclined, my car is only so many minutes away and id be glad to show in and out comparisons, if you keep the ego in check so i dont need to roid rage.

In the mean time, now that your im cool because i pretend i know everything quota is filled for the week, so do something else.

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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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whatever you say child. Ill wait to test and see what others say.

I realize it claims it cant effect the 60 foot time directly. However, the ralliart delay from an idle is quite significant and the removal of that, or a portion, will effect that time, in that situation. Is it one we will run into racing often, no, but the fact remains. How you fail to grasp that simple idea is beyond me and many on here.

As for you claims being invalid. I was referring to simple information you are using from your own experiences and stories you've heard of said application on other vehicles. Just because its like it there, that has no bearing on this situation, and claiming it does, or that because it this situation would be exact, is simply invalid.

the miracle drug comment is a fail at best. As stated if you are so inclined, my car is only so many minutes away and id be glad to show in and out comparisons, if you keep the ego in check so i dont need to roid rage.

In the mean time, now that your im cool because i pretend i know everything quota is filled for the week, so do something else.
Again, how can a product which acts to amplify the throttle signal, thus making the pedal more sensitive, make a car measurably faster? It's the electronic equivalent of tightening the throttle cable, not some magic box. I find it absolutely hilarious that people are genuinely trying to argue against what the manufacturer of the product states.
Once again, I'm asking questions based on what the manufacturer itself states about the product and what others have observed when they've done real testing. These questions have remained unanswered. It appears that what you're trying to claim is that the Ralliart represents a unique situation as if its drive-by-wire system is somehow completely unlike anything else out there, which is false. Moreover, I'm sure SB had to do some testing with a Ralliart or Evo (a TC-SST car) yet they make no mention of these unique properties or these apparently amazing results, which does not make marketing sense.
I have no idea why you keep saying I need to keep my ego in check since this really has no effect on my ego nor is it a result of an ego. I have no personal interest in this product and thus don't care.
This appears to fit the miracle drug example quite well since, once again, the actual questions aren't being answered and people are attributing properties to the SB that go well outside what Sprint Booster actually says is possible.
Here are the questions that need to be answered.

Is this product capable of producing results outside of what a user can achieve by pushing their foot down further?

If yes, how is this possible given how the Sprint Booster works?

How can a product that acts to amplify the throttle signal produce measurable changes in performance characteristics where WOT is the name of the game?

How can a product that acts to amplify the throttle signal change the way the transmission behaves outside of that possible without said product?

How is it possible to launch harder while putting less strain on the drivetrain when no mechanical parts of the car are changed?

How is it possible to achieve the same launch type without having the same amount of throttle input seen at the ECU, thus the same RPM?
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by boondoc
I realize that as well. But i also realize my gas goes down faster with it off, it could just be me

This seems like a cool product and i wouldn't mind tryin it. But $330 is jus a bit out of my range right now. All these dumb arguments need to stop, it improves throttle response. Why argue with a fact that has been proven? The OP never said it makes the world spin faster when accelerating.
It doesn't increase throttle response, it increases throttle pedal sensitivity, there's a difference. All it does is trick the ECU into thinking you're asking for more throttle than you actual are according to throttle pedal position.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by boondoc
This seems like a cool product and i wouldn't mind tryin it. But $330 is jus a bit out of my range right now. All these dumb arguments need to stop, it improves throttle response. Why argue with a fact that has been proven? The OP never said it makes the world spin faster when accelerating.
Originally Posted by ambystom01
It doesn't increase throttle response, it increases throttle pedal sensitivity, there's a difference. All it does is trick the ECU into thinking you're asking for more throttle than you actual are according to throttle pedal position.
Amby i stopped arguing with you a long time ago and i usually step away when it starts but i'm pretty sure i never said in "increases" throttle response. Whether this thing add power or fools the ECU the main point is that it IMPROVES throttle response, which more than one person here has experience. And from what you said results in improved throttle response, does it not?

PS. The added power remark was sarcasm so please don't dwell on that like u usually do to keep an argument goin.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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i personally cant believe this is still going on without any hard numerical facts. can someone please go out and get some actual real-time data at a track and end all of this? i rather enjoy reading all of the arguing that happens here on evom, but from a consumer's point of view, i feel that by arguing, you are essentially achieving nothing. i personally dont want to spend the money on something not tested to work, and dont know of any retailer in my area willing to let me "test drive" one of these, so its up to someone else to help me and any others like myself make the only decision that really counts. please??? yeah, it is nice in the end to understand how things work to make for better race times, but before that, we need to see if it actually does work before it becomes relevant information. somebody just take one of these to a track already

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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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i cant test till late may, but would love to see data.

as for the ree ree kid amby im done trying to communicate with his thick negative mind.

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