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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 06:55 AM
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I don't understand how this thread is worthless without pics. For one NOBODY has a twin charged Evo or Ralliart that I know of. And two, it is a discussion if it could be done and the benefits/drawbacks of doing so.
his comment was directed towards "balhas"
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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look into a procharger
also ill go sneak into my garage and take some pics tonight i got a TVS blower going on my cobalt with my GT35R

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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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ok ok i dig deeper here was an original couple pics i have, it since has gotten solid piping and does not look like ****






complete garage built, like stated those are early pictures ..... does not look anything like that atm
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bulhas
ok ok i dig deeper here was an original couple pics i have, it since has gotten solid piping and does not look like ****






complete garage built, like stated those are early pictures ..... does not look anything like that atm

i had the original hahn kit (not this kit) on my car when i was in nova scotia, and it simply isnt a worth while project. The same power can be made of a larger turbo. However the project is much more viable for a SS/SC because it comes supercharged stock. That is usually the starting point for a twin charged car, m having a hard time finding turbo to twin charged vehicles.

Also who ever posted a pro charger idea is kinda slow. A procharger isnt a roots style supercharger like this one is, it acts more like a turbo and doesnt offer the same twin charging aspects. The fact you would need to create a custom intake manifold, a complete pulley system and reworking of all the piping in the car make the project incredibly expensive and worthless.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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Also who ever posted a pro charger idea is kinda slow. A procharger isnt a roots style supercharger like this one is, it acts more like a turbo and doesnt offer the same twin charging aspects. The fact you would need to create a custom intake manifold, a complete pulley system and reworking of all the piping in the car make the project incredibly expensive and worthless.
still belt driven, lol doesn't use exhaust to power it, no custom manifold needed would just need to rework the intake piping, it would still be a little different but the turbo output would tie into the air filter location for the procharger and the procharger output would go to the intake manifold

it would be full boost at 1500 rpm on a procharger and would bring your turbo boost up way to fast on our factory turbo, it would require a much larger turbo even larger than a evo turbo to be effecient

in a twin charged system you want your system to make power past your redline thus the whole idea and to never drop torque, id put down youd spend 6 to 7 in just building the twincharge system to run properly, you need to two boost controllers a custom ecm cuz i dooubt our factory ecu would be able to handle the weird numbers, dont get me wrong or anything but our car we have AWD to make up for the low end power issues

its your car but i know better ways to spend 6k + you need more upgrades beyond that
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bulhas
still belt driven, lol doesn't use exhaust to power it, no custom manifold needed would just need to rework the intake piping, it would still be a little different but the turbo output would tie into the air filter location for the procharger and the procharger output would go to the intake manifold

it would be full boost at 1500 rpm on a procharger and would bring your turbo boost up way to fast on our factory turbo, it would require a much larger turbo even larger than a evo turbo to be effecient

in a twin charged system you want your system to make power past your redline thus the whole idea and to never drop torque, id put down youd spend 6 to 7 in just building the twincharge system to run properly, you need to two boost controllers a custom ecm cuz i dooubt our factory ecu would be able to handle the weird numbers, dont get me wrong or anything but our car we have AWD to make up for the low end power issues

its your car but i know better ways to spend 6k + you need more upgrades beyond that
yes still belt driven, but not commonly used in a twin charged setup because it require intake tubing and isnt connected to the inlet manifold like a roots style. Very few engine bays have enouhg room for a procharger and turbo.

I remember the procharger kid on cobaltss.net , his conclusion was it was too expensive and didnt produce the power numbers he expected. Was lawls.


Im actually suprised you arent running a bigger pulley Bulhas. Is that just the stock 3.34 ?

Anyways, i agree the amount is substantial, and wouldnt produce any better results then an fp green or red.
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Westbound&down
yes still belt driven, but not commonly used in a twin charged setup because it require intake tubing and isnt connected to the inlet manifold like a roots style. Very few engine bays have enouhg room for a procharger and turbo.

I remember the procharger kid on cobaltss.net , his conclusion was it was too expensive and didnt produce the power numbers he expected. Was lawls.


Im actually suprised you arent running a bigger pulley Bulhas. Is that just the stock 3.34 ?

Anyways, i agree the amount is substantial, and wouldnt produce any better results then an fp green or red.

because i need to push my turbo now lol, when i switched to a super 60 turbo the 3.6 inch pulley didnt push it to enough boost till after 4500 so my torque dipped down around 4k lol so i went to a stock pulley and made a huge difference

i also never close my bypass valve after 1500 lol
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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go bi turbo
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gaabbee
go bi turbo

are you tardo?

We only have one manifold. Twin turbo 4 cylinders are HILARIOUS fails
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Westbound&down
are you tardo?

We only have one manifold. Twin turbo 4 cylinders are HILARIOUS fails
not true..a guy on my last forums had a twin turbo srt4 with over 600whp...no it wasnt a srt4 forum...and plus i was being sarcastic
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Westbound&down
are you tardo?

We only have one manifold. Twin turbo 4 cylinders are HILARIOUS fails
+1 You are much better off getting a twin scroll if you went that option.
I STILL WANT A SC THOUGH!!!!! It would be really cool and unique in the Lancer community.
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gaabbee
not true..a guy on my last forums had a twin turbo srt4 with over 600whp...no it wasnt a srt4 forum...and plus i was being sarcastic
lol, there is one in edmonton with a twin torbo setup. The difference my dear boy is both of those are a single manifold, and neither is boosting into the other. Its 2 turbos running equal boost at the same time, which is essentially doubling the cfms the system can flow. Theis however is NOT a true twin turbo system, with a small and large turbo, where the smaller one limits the lag of the larger one.
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 12:50 AM
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proper twin charge setup up use flaps the sc is at lower revs then the turbo spools up and close flaps to let turbo air in you can do this electronic way or mechanical way twin charges work the best on v8 i never done a 4 before
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chlucero
+1 You are much better off getting a twin scroll if you went that option.
I STILL WANT A SC THOUGH!!!!! It would be really cool and unique in the Lancer community.

there is reasons auto makers use turbos on performance cars more often then sc's. There are reasons gm switched the SS to a turbo after 3 years of sc's, and there are reasons the evo/ra community doesnt have any twin charged or supercharged (outside of some firstgen ra's with ript sc's) systems. They dont make as much power, cost more, wear on the engine, and never produce the results you want.

Blowers are awesome on v8s that can push a big blower hard enough to create rediculous power.
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