A word of warning about the UR longtube DP: there has been more than one reported case of the welds blowing on the O2 dump resulting in complete failure. If you can afford it, go with a cast piece (like the AMS DP). I have the RexSpeed DP sitting in my apartment waiting to go on, and it looks like a really good piece. Plus, it has a lifetime warranty. Can't beat that.

 

My only worry, is wanting to go bigger! Once you start the process and you know you can do more you will want more and for me that is Always the hard decission. That's what I'm struggling with. Either way I commend CBRD on how they do help and support our community!

 

Whats the Rad flow? Im about to do the upgrade myself leaning towards the rad. Mods so far are X FMIC, UR testpipe, AMS single exit catback, UR UICP, UR LICP, DIY intake, and a 3 port. What other supporting mods would help that Rad out the most?

 

The reality is that you are going to hit a HUGE wall with anything past an RAD or stock X turbocharger. You can expect your rods to disintegrate at anything close to 400 ft/lbs (check the X forums and read the horror stories).

 

that's the exact appeal I advocate for doing an X swap instead

once you do an X swap, you're practically shopping on an Evo X catalog. no more being the weird bastard child that sort-of is an Evo, sort-of isn't. you get to look at what the Evo guys are doing as far as engine and turbo setups - you have a 4b11t, use it!

considering most of the cost for a turbo swap goes into labor - a turbo swap is a turbo swap really - the main price difference is just the setup.

good post though CBRD. the community needed this plot vs plot info a year ago though, but still nice to finally see them plotted against each other

 

Well Chad is the Evo X swap my ralliart? Looks like the same stuff I have on mine which I took to you guys not to long ago. Thanks Exyia for the Evo X box of goodies.

 

no problem

and good job on doing your own shopping. never realized how much I was overcharging for the kit. made me realize how much cheaper the X swap really is

 

If I do go the Evo X route and then plan to go bigger I will do all the research I can before I do. I have a mini shop at my house and we worked on a few engines. I have a shop in town that I go to for anything inside the engine that I go to. thanks for the info.

 

I know someone talked about UR long downpipe to not work as well. Has this happened for the RA with the Rad turbo? I am leaning towards the RAD turbo and want to get an open dump and I know UR is the only company that makes it for the ralliart turbo

 

No. That is specific to the Evolution X setup. The principles are the same, though. If the O2 housing is welded and not cast, you may run into problems.

 

It depends on where the welds are. If they place the flex joint right at an angle, the welds end up snapping. If the flex joint is placed on a straight section, the welds hold up.

 

I agree with you completely, Eric. The intercooler and the intake I got from them are both works of art. I can't wait to see the power I make with these once I get tuned with the Evo X setup at AWD.

 

Check out their racing radiators

 

Thanks everyone! we appreciate the feedback-

the UR downpipe works VERY well, when we had that and our exhaust it picked up some good power-

Darryl makes Excellent parts.

cb

 

They may not even still have issues. I have just heard a few problems on that front. And you guys need to understand, I have nothing personally against UR. My entire setup on the intake side of the Ralliart came from UR. I am just trying to provide a complete picture with all of the products being sold. It is a fact that some people, who race their Evolution X's, have had issues with the welds on their UR longtube DP's let go, completely.