Wideband/Datalogger question
The numbers I mentioned are based on the WBC calculator taken from the wideband commander website
http://www.widebandcommander.com/downloads.htm
You have to take measurements with the ignition on and engine off and that will give you a voltage number at 0.0 zero psi. Now based on that number you get the other two numbers that I mentioned. So the numbers that I mentioned relate to what I got at 0 psi. Here they are again.
1.6 volts (ignition on engine off with GM 3 MAP sensor)=0 psi
0.00 volts=-14.67 psi
5.00 volts=31.18 psi
The 1.6 volts VARIES by atmospheric pressure. At my altitude I got 1.6 volts and therefore I got -14.67 psi=0.00 volts. Here is what WBC commander recommends you do to calibrate your GM 3 bar sensor
http://www.widebandcommander.com/techtips.htm
"The latest software download includes a "sensor calculator". Simply pick the sensor "GM 3 bar", and the appropriate data will come up. When you go into the analog set up in the WBC software, you'll enter this data. Since we all live at different elevations and thus have different absolute pressures, it's advised to get a "zero setting". Set the analog channel that is wired to the MAP sensor to display voltage. With the key on, engine off, record the voltage. This voltage should be entered in the sensor calculator to provide the software a proper zero reference."
The same process is recommended by Hondata, the famous Honda ECU tuner:
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=6
Check the wire voltage with a multi-meter to make sure the wiring has been performed correctly (alternatively HondaLogger can be used to datalog the voltage). With the ignition switch on but the engine not running the standard MAP sensor should read 2.85V between the MAP signal and GND wires. The GM MAP sensor should read 1.6V. (All voltages are correct for sea level - at higher altitudes the voltage will be lower.)
Again, I never mentioned Zeitronix by name. I AM TALKING IN GENERAL about calibrating a MAP sensor.
PLX also requires that you calibrate your MAP sensor.
http://www.plxdevices.com/AppNotes/
http://www.plxdevices.com/AppNotes/PLXApp013.pdf
You will notice that they list the MAP sensors that PLX uses including the GM 3 bar MAP sensor.
So what do we know so far? You will need to calibrate your MAP sensor when you use three out of four loggers, ie, Innovate, PLX, and WBC commander.
I stand by what I said that IN GENERAL you will need to calibrate your MAP sensor to use it properly.
http://www.widebandcommander.com/downloads.htm
You have to take measurements with the ignition on and engine off and that will give you a voltage number at 0.0 zero psi. Now based on that number you get the other two numbers that I mentioned. So the numbers that I mentioned relate to what I got at 0 psi. Here they are again.
1.6 volts (ignition on engine off with GM 3 MAP sensor)=0 psi
0.00 volts=-14.67 psi
5.00 volts=31.18 psi
The 1.6 volts VARIES by atmospheric pressure. At my altitude I got 1.6 volts and therefore I got -14.67 psi=0.00 volts. Here is what WBC commander recommends you do to calibrate your GM 3 bar sensor
http://www.widebandcommander.com/techtips.htm
"The latest software download includes a "sensor calculator". Simply pick the sensor "GM 3 bar", and the appropriate data will come up. When you go into the analog set up in the WBC software, you'll enter this data. Since we all live at different elevations and thus have different absolute pressures, it's advised to get a "zero setting". Set the analog channel that is wired to the MAP sensor to display voltage. With the key on, engine off, record the voltage. This voltage should be entered in the sensor calculator to provide the software a proper zero reference."
The same process is recommended by Hondata, the famous Honda ECU tuner:
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...s&ct=clnk&cd=6
Check the wire voltage with a multi-meter to make sure the wiring has been performed correctly (alternatively HondaLogger can be used to datalog the voltage). With the ignition switch on but the engine not running the standard MAP sensor should read 2.85V between the MAP signal and GND wires. The GM MAP sensor should read 1.6V. (All voltages are correct for sea level - at higher altitudes the voltage will be lower.)
Again, I never mentioned Zeitronix by name. I AM TALKING IN GENERAL about calibrating a MAP sensor.
PLX also requires that you calibrate your MAP sensor.
http://www.plxdevices.com/AppNotes/
http://www.plxdevices.com/AppNotes/PLXApp013.pdf
You will notice that they list the MAP sensors that PLX uses including the GM 3 bar MAP sensor.
So what do we know so far? You will need to calibrate your MAP sensor when you use three out of four loggers, ie, Innovate, PLX, and WBC commander.
I stand by what I said that IN GENERAL you will need to calibrate your MAP sensor to use it properly.
Last edited by nj1266; Jun 26, 2006 at 12:28 AM.
If you want to log EGTs with the ZT2 you need to purchase the EGT probe. Zeitronix sells it as an option. The probe comes with a k-grade thermocouple wire. I run ecuFlash on my Evo as well.. and the ECU+ provides the most absolute picture of what's going on when I make changes to my tune. The ECU+ can datalog like there's no tomorrow... and it's very easy to use.
ZEITRONIX has its EGT input built into the ZT2 no matter what options you choose. The base model options have EGT built into the box.
Originally Posted by nj1266
So who is correct? These two quotes from Zeitronix users contradict each other
The EGT input is built into the ZT2 box regardless of what options.
To view and use the EGT input, you need the probe with ZT2 connector.
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