Mitsubishi VS Subaru Showdown results.
Mitsubishi VS Subaru Showdown results.
Here are the event results from this weekend. This is the "black and white" outcome of the event.
BRACKET CLASS
3rd place, Rick Ciolli JR, Austintown, OH, 1992 Eagle Talon
3rd place, Jim Hut, Norwalk, OH, 1990 Eagle Talon
2nd place, Steve Christian, Patuskala, OH
1st place, Jeff Oswalt, Galloway, OH, 2006 EVO
EVO VS WRX
3rd place, Angelo Alesci, Moreland Hills, OH 2004 Subaru STi-13.85@99.88
3rd place, Michael Puglisi, Arlington Heights, IL 2006 EVO-12.42@111.44
2nd place, Greg Bennett, Saginaw MI-12.08@116.38
1st place, Chris Young, Rootstown, OH 2006 EVO-11.79@115.15
SUBARU QUICK 8
3rd place, Justin Del Coi, Delaware, OH 2003 WRX-fouled
2nd place, Steve Schroeder, Ferndale, MI 2004 WRX-33.63@30.94
1st place, Keith Owen, Piqua, OH 2004 Legacy-12.37@112.15
MITSUBISHI QUICK 8
3rd place, Trent Stanley, Akron, OH 2004 EVO-9.91@147.55
3rd place, Daniel Buschur, Berlin Heights, OH 2003 EVO-16.06@84.55
2nd place, Kevin Kwiahlowski, Belleville, MI 1991 Laser-9.58@142.57
1st place, Eric Jones, Arlington Heights, IL 2003 EVO-9.38@159.31
KING OF THE DYNO
Subaru-Bill McDaniel-Subaru STi, 297 whp
Mitsubishi-Mike Shultz-Mitsubishi EVO, 381 whp
BRACKET CLASS
3rd place, Rick Ciolli JR, Austintown, OH, 1992 Eagle Talon
3rd place, Jim Hut, Norwalk, OH, 1990 Eagle Talon
2nd place, Steve Christian, Patuskala, OH
1st place, Jeff Oswalt, Galloway, OH, 2006 EVO
EVO VS WRX
3rd place, Angelo Alesci, Moreland Hills, OH 2004 Subaru STi-13.85@99.88
3rd place, Michael Puglisi, Arlington Heights, IL 2006 EVO-12.42@111.44
2nd place, Greg Bennett, Saginaw MI-12.08@116.38
1st place, Chris Young, Rootstown, OH 2006 EVO-11.79@115.15
SUBARU QUICK 8
3rd place, Justin Del Coi, Delaware, OH 2003 WRX-fouled
2nd place, Steve Schroeder, Ferndale, MI 2004 WRX-33.63@30.94
1st place, Keith Owen, Piqua, OH 2004 Legacy-12.37@112.15
MITSUBISHI QUICK 8
3rd place, Trent Stanley, Akron, OH 2004 EVO-9.91@147.55
3rd place, Daniel Buschur, Berlin Heights, OH 2003 EVO-16.06@84.55
2nd place, Kevin Kwiahlowski, Belleville, MI 1991 Laser-9.58@142.57
1st place, Eric Jones, Arlington Heights, IL 2003 EVO-9.38@159.31
KING OF THE DYNO
Subaru-Bill McDaniel-Subaru STi, 297 whp
Mitsubishi-Mike Shultz-Mitsubishi EVO, 381 whp
More details.............
The event this year went very very good. The longer we do these the smoother they run. This year went off perfectly. Beautiful weather, great turn out with a lot of cars on the grounds. Time to make as many time trials as you could have wanted to.
Some of the highlights.
THE DYNO COMPETITION
We decided before we started the day that all 5 speed cars would be dyno'd in 3rd gear and all 6 speed cars would be dyno'd in 4th gear. This gets good power out of the cars without putting extremely long pulls on them, keeps the playing field all equal and has the least chance of damaging someone's car. The dyno competition was set up to make 3 pulls, no tuning allowed. 4th gear on a 5 speed car will produce higher numbers on our dyno.
I pulled my RS on the dyno, did one quick pull in 3rd gear, 627 whp, this is a new record for my car in 3rd gear, highest ever before was 600. We then pulled on the black car, nothing good came of this. First pull the car was cold, still running on warm up enrichment so it was too rich. We got the car warm, made another pull and the car layed down 755. The graph didn't look right but we pulled the car off the dyno and parked it. I noticed the hose to the boost controller was "blown" off as we were unstrapping the car from the dyno. I told Daniel, my brother, about it. He replaced the hose and nothing more was thought about it. I pulled the log out of the AEM and noticed the car was very rich right after 8,000 rpm and the boost fell of quickly...........about an hour later one of the guys here at the car show came to us and said, "Do you know your turbo is all torn up on the black car?" Well here's what happened, the vacuum hose running to our boost controller was hanging near the turbo, at 8,000 rpm on the dyno is actually sucked the hose into the turbo and broke all the tips off the compressor wheel.......explains the poor power and boost falling off. We called everywhere to try and find a new turbo, nobody had one. We would be forced to try and run Sunday at the event with this mangled turbo. Next up we through Trent's car on the dyno. He made 433 whp, then 463 whp, then I leaned in the car, looked at a log and asked if he'd like to go for 500, the look on his face said, "Yes, BUT........" I turned the boost up, now this is on straight Sheetz 93 octane. Personally, I have never considered even stopping at a gas station named Sheetz! haha The next pull on Trent's car was done in 4th gear and the car made 525 whp! Unreal. This is tied for the most we've ever made on straight pump gas on our dyno.
As a side note, after we dyno'd, nobody else signed up for the competition so I made an announcement that we would not enter our cars in the competition. Then the sign up sheet had a few more people go for it.
AT THE TRACK
AMS, they had a good weekend, great considering the record setting pass. First pass of the day they shattered their existing record running an 8.56 at 168 mph! I was amazed. At the end of the track their door actually blew off the car, crossing into the other lane and tripping the lights, the lane next to them showed an 8.43 second run. The reason this showed up like this was the other car had actually left before they did on the tree, their door then tripped their lights. In the amazement of the 8.56 run they made very few people even noticed the other lane reading 8.43. I had to call the tower from the radio to question what had happened. Congrats to the all the guys at AMS. BTW, they had to get a full weight door to bolt back on the car from a customers car to finish up the event! Very nice team work.
There was another timing mishap later in the day. The same car that recorded the 8.43 against AMS from their door tripping the lights (black 2g Eclipse) later recorded an 8.00. The car (not sure who's it was) said something on the back window about "race gas is an excuse for poor tuning). Anyway, the car smoked like a freight train, when it left the line later in the day there was so much engine smoke that the stage beams stayed activated until enough smoke cleared, by then the car was a very good ways down the track, this left them with an 8.00 time later. Very odd, if you get a chance to see the video you will see how much smoke was left at the starting line after the car leaves. This could have been the problem on the run that registered 8.43 too, actually after further review of the video I don't think AMS's door tripped the beams in their lane at all, it appears as the door went UP and not across near the lights....hard to say. Weird timing events though.
Our black car, 1st two of our runs, sucked. The car is back to just shutting off randomly. It is absolutely a wiring issue and we are done fighting it, the car is having a complete new wiring harness made before it ever goes back to the track again. The 3rd run we got lucky, the car made it down the track without shutting off, Daniel managed to run a 9.09 at 165.68 mph. So we set a new MPH record for ourselves......on a fairly mangled up turbo. Good things will come for the car, we just need to fix the turbo now and get a real wiring harness in it. The rest of the passes for the day were flops with the car shutting off again.
My white RS. This car, I have to say, is just freaking amazing me more everyday. I drove the hell out of it this weekend, magazine shoots, all over for dinner etc. The car is just so fast and so amazing. I drove it out to the track Sunday morning. I was going to just have Trent make time trial runs in it. After the first round with the black car I decided it should enter Quick 8 just incase the black car kept running poorly. So, Trent was thrown into the Q8 class at the last minute on my daily driver, on the radials. The car ran a series of 9.90's and ran a new best mph of 148.27. The car, qualified 4th and made it to the semi finals. I then drove it out to dinner and then home and back to work today. It is just amazing.
Trent's car. He wanted to make a couple easy runs, tires spinning and no power shifting he ran an 11.2 at 133.8 mph on pump gas. Going to have to loan him a set of my tires so he can run some mid 10's with that trap speed on straight pump.
Al Friedman. Al got to the track late, so he couldn't get in a qualifier for the Quick 8 class. He ended up having to enter Bracket. His car ran a few 9.70's at 150 mph and he spent the day making multiple 60' runs and then backing up and trying it again. He is working on a new boost controller to help with launching so it was a good day of practice.
Kevin Kwiahlowski was on hand with his 1g FWD. This car is equipped with an auto trans, front wheel drive and an automatic transmission. The car is impressive, he ran multiple, effortless 9.40-9.5 second passes. Also finished 2nd in the Quick 8 class.
Thanks for reading and looking forward to next year.
Some of the highlights.
THE DYNO COMPETITION
We decided before we started the day that all 5 speed cars would be dyno'd in 3rd gear and all 6 speed cars would be dyno'd in 4th gear. This gets good power out of the cars without putting extremely long pulls on them, keeps the playing field all equal and has the least chance of damaging someone's car. The dyno competition was set up to make 3 pulls, no tuning allowed. 4th gear on a 5 speed car will produce higher numbers on our dyno.
I pulled my RS on the dyno, did one quick pull in 3rd gear, 627 whp, this is a new record for my car in 3rd gear, highest ever before was 600. We then pulled on the black car, nothing good came of this. First pull the car was cold, still running on warm up enrichment so it was too rich. We got the car warm, made another pull and the car layed down 755. The graph didn't look right but we pulled the car off the dyno and parked it. I noticed the hose to the boost controller was "blown" off as we were unstrapping the car from the dyno. I told Daniel, my brother, about it. He replaced the hose and nothing more was thought about it. I pulled the log out of the AEM and noticed the car was very rich right after 8,000 rpm and the boost fell of quickly...........about an hour later one of the guys here at the car show came to us and said, "Do you know your turbo is all torn up on the black car?" Well here's what happened, the vacuum hose running to our boost controller was hanging near the turbo, at 8,000 rpm on the dyno is actually sucked the hose into the turbo and broke all the tips off the compressor wheel.......explains the poor power and boost falling off. We called everywhere to try and find a new turbo, nobody had one. We would be forced to try and run Sunday at the event with this mangled turbo. Next up we through Trent's car on the dyno. He made 433 whp, then 463 whp, then I leaned in the car, looked at a log and asked if he'd like to go for 500, the look on his face said, "Yes, BUT........" I turned the boost up, now this is on straight Sheetz 93 octane. Personally, I have never considered even stopping at a gas station named Sheetz! haha The next pull on Trent's car was done in 4th gear and the car made 525 whp! Unreal. This is tied for the most we've ever made on straight pump gas on our dyno.
As a side note, after we dyno'd, nobody else signed up for the competition so I made an announcement that we would not enter our cars in the competition. Then the sign up sheet had a few more people go for it.
AT THE TRACK
AMS, they had a good weekend, great considering the record setting pass. First pass of the day they shattered their existing record running an 8.56 at 168 mph! I was amazed. At the end of the track their door actually blew off the car, crossing into the other lane and tripping the lights, the lane next to them showed an 8.43 second run. The reason this showed up like this was the other car had actually left before they did on the tree, their door then tripped their lights. In the amazement of the 8.56 run they made very few people even noticed the other lane reading 8.43. I had to call the tower from the radio to question what had happened. Congrats to the all the guys at AMS. BTW, they had to get a full weight door to bolt back on the car from a customers car to finish up the event! Very nice team work.
There was another timing mishap later in the day. The same car that recorded the 8.43 against AMS from their door tripping the lights (black 2g Eclipse) later recorded an 8.00. The car (not sure who's it was) said something on the back window about "race gas is an excuse for poor tuning). Anyway, the car smoked like a freight train, when it left the line later in the day there was so much engine smoke that the stage beams stayed activated until enough smoke cleared, by then the car was a very good ways down the track, this left them with an 8.00 time later. Very odd, if you get a chance to see the video you will see how much smoke was left at the starting line after the car leaves. This could have been the problem on the run that registered 8.43 too, actually after further review of the video I don't think AMS's door tripped the beams in their lane at all, it appears as the door went UP and not across near the lights....hard to say. Weird timing events though.
Our black car, 1st two of our runs, sucked. The car is back to just shutting off randomly. It is absolutely a wiring issue and we are done fighting it, the car is having a complete new wiring harness made before it ever goes back to the track again. The 3rd run we got lucky, the car made it down the track without shutting off, Daniel managed to run a 9.09 at 165.68 mph. So we set a new MPH record for ourselves......on a fairly mangled up turbo. Good things will come for the car, we just need to fix the turbo now and get a real wiring harness in it. The rest of the passes for the day were flops with the car shutting off again.
My white RS. This car, I have to say, is just freaking amazing me more everyday. I drove the hell out of it this weekend, magazine shoots, all over for dinner etc. The car is just so fast and so amazing. I drove it out to the track Sunday morning. I was going to just have Trent make time trial runs in it. After the first round with the black car I decided it should enter Quick 8 just incase the black car kept running poorly. So, Trent was thrown into the Q8 class at the last minute on my daily driver, on the radials. The car ran a series of 9.90's and ran a new best mph of 148.27. The car, qualified 4th and made it to the semi finals. I then drove it out to dinner and then home and back to work today. It is just amazing.
Trent's car. He wanted to make a couple easy runs, tires spinning and no power shifting he ran an 11.2 at 133.8 mph on pump gas. Going to have to loan him a set of my tires so he can run some mid 10's with that trap speed on straight pump.
Al Friedman. Al got to the track late, so he couldn't get in a qualifier for the Quick 8 class. He ended up having to enter Bracket. His car ran a few 9.70's at 150 mph and he spent the day making multiple 60' runs and then backing up and trying it again. He is working on a new boost controller to help with launching so it was a good day of practice.
Kevin Kwiahlowski was on hand with his 1g FWD. This car is equipped with an auto trans, front wheel drive and an automatic transmission. The car is impressive, he ran multiple, effortless 9.40-9.5 second passes. Also finished 2nd in the Quick 8 class.
Thanks for reading and looking forward to next year.
Great event, good to see that it keeps growing every year. Hopefully in the next few years it grows as big as the DSM shootout!!!
BTW it is truly impressive to see a car show quality car, like Dave's RS run consistant 9.9 passes and spinning the tires all through 1st gear like a FWD car!!!
+1, I'll be there next year!!!
BTW it is truly impressive to see a car show quality car, like Dave's RS run consistant 9.9 passes and spinning the tires all through 1st gear like a FWD car!!!
+1, I'll be there next year!!!
Last edited by JRB_EVO; Jun 25, 2007 at 07:26 AM.
A big thanks to the Buschur crew for hosting another event! They are my favorite events of the year, and two of the few events that I really look forward to attending.
It was good see some friends that I only see at various races & odd occasions and everyone of there cars were running good! Mike Reichen ran a new personal best of 9.12@158 in his EVO 2 during open session runs. I can't wait to get that car back out to the Maxton Mile in September, with some better aero it should run 210-215mph rather easily. Buschur's EVO ran an impressive 9.0@165 with a mangled turbo, I never expected that. Big things should come out of Buschurs EVO once it's back to 100% running form. And a big Congrats to AMS on the record pass! The car is a beast and if they manage to tame it, it will be bloody fast.
Thanks again to the Buschur crew for a great event, I'm really lokoing forward to the Shootout! If any of you guys haven't made it to either of these events yet, I'd suggest scheduling vacation time for the Shootout in August you won't regret it.
It was good see some friends that I only see at various races & odd occasions and everyone of there cars were running good! Mike Reichen ran a new personal best of 9.12@158 in his EVO 2 during open session runs. I can't wait to get that car back out to the Maxton Mile in September, with some better aero it should run 210-215mph rather easily. Buschur's EVO ran an impressive 9.0@165 with a mangled turbo, I never expected that. Big things should come out of Buschurs EVO once it's back to 100% running form. And a big Congrats to AMS on the record pass! The car is a beast and if they manage to tame it, it will be bloody fast.
Thanks again to the Buschur crew for a great event, I'm really lokoing forward to the Shootout! If any of you guys haven't made it to either of these events yet, I'd suggest scheduling vacation time for the Shootout in August you won't regret it.
Thanks to Buschur for great event. It was my first time out to the Mitsu Vs. Suby showdown and it was run very smoothly. Our car ran well and after our 8.56 pass I added some boost at it and it got ROWDY! The car was a handful and Eric did a great job of keeping it in his lane. It was good seeing guys like Shearer, Buschur, Kiggly, and the rest of the Buschur crew. Too bad you're car was giving you so much trouble Dave, I really wanted to see the car go fast. I'm confident you'll get it sorted soon and the chase will be on! It keeps us on our toes and learning new things to make the cars go quicker and faster.
Congrats goes to the fast street cars. Cars like our friend Dave Bruzewski (10.4 @ 138mph with issues!), Dave's RS, and a slew of other very fast cars that truly serve a dual purpose.
Congrats goes to the fast street cars. Cars like our friend Dave Bruzewski (10.4 @ 138mph with issues!), Dave's RS, and a slew of other very fast cars that truly serve a dual purpose.
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Nothing happened to Big Al. He ran what he has been, 9.70's with a best MPH of 154. He was just practicing and working with a new progressive boost controller.
We are thinking of letting an SRT4 club in on the racing action next year...........
We are thinking of letting an SRT4 club in on the racing action next year...........
Ok I'll sit back and shut up now.
Thanks for hosting the event Dave, I still had a great time even though i could not run my car.
p.s. Thanks for the free food and thanks to Jarrod and Nick for all you help getting the U-haul info for me.
p.s. Thanks for the free food and thanks to Jarrod and Nick for all you help getting the U-haul info for me.
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