Winter tires...
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Winter tires...
I dunno if this is stupid or not but may save ya some money!
WHy get winter tires? I'm thinking stay off the road. I dunno about where you live but In Jerzey after last winters 2+ feet of snow, in like 12 hours the roads were completely cleared. Ok yes there are times where you'll be driving and its snowing out granted, ok you have that point. But I think staying off the road will save me an easy $800.00.
Again here, they are good with road clearing so i'm not to concerned. Plus AWD I'll get to where i want to get if its not that far, then wait it out.
I think its worth the 800. But thats just me.
WHy get winter tires? I'm thinking stay off the road. I dunno about where you live but In Jerzey after last winters 2+ feet of snow, in like 12 hours the roads were completely cleared. Ok yes there are times where you'll be driving and its snowing out granted, ok you have that point. But I think staying off the road will save me an easy $800.00.
Again here, they are good with road clearing so i'm not to concerned. Plus AWD I'll get to where i want to get if its not that far, then wait it out.
I think its worth the 800. But thats just me.
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It's not just the snow you need to be worried about, the freezing temps will make your Advans as hard as rocks.
It's not just the snow you need to be worried about, the freezing temps will make your Advans as hard as rocks.
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Damn... good point I never really thought of that... But, the pavement is not always freezing or below 40deg. Maybe at first they will be hard but after they hit the warm pavement (kind of like when you burn your feet in the summer) will they not warm up?
I'm not trying to pruve you wrong, just 800.00 for good snow tires is a lot of money.
I'm not trying to pruve you wrong, just 800.00 for good snow tires is a lot of money.
Even when the tire warms up, ambient temps below 40 deg can cause the compounds in the tire to harden. Tires cool down pretty quickly in cold conditions, even during a stop light, or if you hit cold debirs like water in the road. It can actually be dangerous to drive performance based tires in the winter because of this. In most cases, the price of the winter tires are what you would spend on your deductible if you wreck.
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OK,
What what is a winter tire that you recomend? If it comes down to me buying winter tire I dont want to go crazy. I'm on a budget like all of us are and I'm just trying to save money.
What what is a winter tire that you recomend? If it comes down to me buying winter tire I dont want to go crazy. I'm on a budget like all of us are and I'm just trying to save money.
You have to realize that true summer performance tires are truly truly bad in the snow. Not average, but slide off the road, get stranded in the snow, bad.
The first time I drove my Porsche 928 in the snow, I was driving from Los Angeles to Salt Lake City, and hit a snow storm in southern Utah on I-15. I had slowed to about 35 MPH, and it was true white-knuckle driving. First exit I saw, I tried to slow and steer for the exit lane, and slid right off the road into the grass. Luckily a 4x4 Jeep was right behind me, and had a rope to pull me out of the grass. I proceeded down the off ramp to the motel about 1/4 mile away at about 5 MPH, and I had to "wait it out" as you say. Being stranded 400 miles from home and waiting for the weather to clear is not my idea of fun.
I just put in my order for Dunlop Winter Sport M2's for the Evo today. $610 including shipping, from Tire Rack. A very small investment to keep my car on the road 52 weeks a year.
The first time I drove my Porsche 928 in the snow, I was driving from Los Angeles to Salt Lake City, and hit a snow storm in southern Utah on I-15. I had slowed to about 35 MPH, and it was true white-knuckle driving. First exit I saw, I tried to slow and steer for the exit lane, and slid right off the road into the grass. Luckily a 4x4 Jeep was right behind me, and had a rope to pull me out of the grass. I proceeded down the off ramp to the motel about 1/4 mile away at about 5 MPH, and I had to "wait it out" as you say. Being stranded 400 miles from home and waiting for the weather to clear is not my idea of fun.
I just put in my order for Dunlop Winter Sport M2's for the Evo today. $610 including shipping, from Tire Rack. A very small investment to keep my car on the road 52 weeks a year.
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Wow thats good pricing... I like that price. Dont forget mounting 
There is where my friend who works at tuffys comes in. LOL. Did you order then from a vender on evolutionm.net or directly from the tirerack. I know the venders on evolutionm.net should give some kind of discount.
When is the best time to put the winter tires on? (I'm from NJ)
There is where my friend who works at tuffys comes in. LOL. Did you order then from a vender on evolutionm.net or directly from the tirerack. I know the venders on evolutionm.net should give some kind of discount.
When is the best time to put the winter tires on? (I'm from NJ)
Least expensive snow tire is the Dunlop Graspic DS-1. Not a bad tire to have, but its handling is very loose on dry pavement. There is also a post on these tires here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hlight=graspic
If you want the best tire for the worst conditions, look at the Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50. If you want a bit better handling out of the tire, do as jbrennen did and purchase the Dunlop M2's. YOu can see all the snow tires and their prices at the followoing link:
Winter Tires in 245/45-17
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hlight=graspic
If you want the best tire for the worst conditions, look at the Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50. If you want a bit better handling out of the tire, do as jbrennen did and purchase the Dunlop M2's. YOu can see all the snow tires and their prices at the followoing link:
Winter Tires in 245/45-17
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Originally posted by Evo11V
OK 225 or 235?
OK 225 or 235?
If you go with a major snow tire like the WS-50s or Hakkas, you might want to stay with 235s, as they'll wear like a pencil eraser in the dry.
If you're using the stock rims, you'll probably be better off with 235s, as there's more tire padding the ($400+) rims when you encounter those snow-hidden curbs.
The reasons to go narrower on a winter tire would be to cut through deep snow better, or to better warm up a harder compound (longer wearing) all-season tire on around-town driving.
If you only get light snow, and drive a lot of freeway miles, stay with the 235s.
I went with 225 width for New England, but I'm using cheaper 17x7.5 winter rims, keeping the expensive Enkeis for the summer Yokos (saving those recurring "mounting" costs).
Originally posted by jbrennen
The first time I drove my Porsche 928 in the snow, I was driving from Los Angeles to Salt Lake City, and hit a snow storm in southern Utah on I-15. I had slowed to about 35 MPH, and it was true white-knuckle driving. First exit I saw, I tried to slow and steer for the exit lane, and slid right off the road into the grass.
The first time I drove my Porsche 928 in the snow, I was driving from Los Angeles to Salt Lake City, and hit a snow storm in southern Utah on I-15. I had slowed to about 35 MPH, and it was true white-knuckle driving. First exit I saw, I tried to slow and steer for the exit lane, and slid right off the road into the grass.
I went with the Blizzack 215/50/17 myself. Only $131 each at the tire rack. Total cost with shipping was 554 shipped. Figure about $50 to mount and ballance all four and I am out the door for ~ $600.
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