I hear what your saying but you would have to be one of the slowest shifters in the world to lose 3-4mph on a stock frame turbo.

 

QFT.

Great thread on traps and weight https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/dr...me-thread.html

Raif, Dynojet 550whp, full weight car, trapped 137mph

 

Yea man..

From my experience a FULL weight EVO around 600whp WILL trap around 137-139mph.

Xcelra8s old car that was around 2800lbs trapped 143mph with 600whp. Add in 400lbs and that car is now trapping 138-139mph no?

MrPerfomance's EVO 8 full weight E85 car, 140mph made 620whp



In my Subaru's 500whp on a dynojet usually gets me in the 130-132 range.


Oh and I guess we can disagree about the e85/93 which is harder to tune.. IMO and in MOSTs e85 will make even the ****tiest tuner look good.

Oh and given that Bean4g63's car traps to the 1/8th what yours traps in the 1/4, I would trust his "racing credentials" just a slight bit more then yours

 

yea i hear ya.. i'm guessing your bean from turbotrix? thanks for giving me the ignition at the etown event a couple years back

yea my boy raif, who can also drive the pants off pretty much anything.

look at badevo8's car, 580hpVD, trapping 138. i don't see where your getting at

i went 115 on pump gas with your tune (360whp on shops dyno).
i went 117 on E85 with your tune (420whp on the shops dyno).

car drivability was 100x better on pump gas than on e85. your a good dude and don't have an issue with you what so ever, but your post tune customer service is slim to none.

Peter

 

He is getting at the fact that it makes 600+whp but only traps 131mph.

Yes you went 2mph faster with 60whp more. You also have a 9 and were/are pretty much at your limit for 4th gear rpm on 93 like I told you. So adding 60whp and having to shift 5th will always loose you a few MPH up top.
If you would have had mods that helped gain some top end, you would have made some more MPH.. Like I told you.

I have no issues with you either Pete. I offered to re tune your car for your new mods, you didn't want to drive to me, wanted it done for cheaper etc. I gave you a price, you tried to work it down. Don't take it personal, I deal with it all day long but I am not a "tune *****" I value my time, and when someone dislikes or argues my price structure I don't argue back.


Jr

 

JR is notoriously impossible to get a hold of, just is what it is. Still had a better experience with him that with the 'bros'. JR was always very helpful when I did get a hold of him (unlike the brosquad), but his lack of availability forced me to look elsewhere.

Oh well, it's all about learning and moving on. I never knew remote tuning was an option, and now that I've had it done, it's all I'll ever do. Dragging my car 4+ hours each way on a trailer is expensive, impractical, stressful, and thankfully a thing of the past.

 

its made way over 550hp. but what do i know? i only own the car. i guess others know more about the vehicle then i do, even though i built it.

just because its only went 131.72 doesnt mean it wont go faster.. it'll go 135+ once i get more seat time and install the rx7 wheels with the taller tire.

** it made 551 on a mustang that reads 13% lower then a dj 2 years ago, and its up more power now then before. i will throw it back on the dyno and get
a new number soon.

im not afraid to admit im not good at the drag strip.. ive only done around 10 passes in my entire life..

 

i know that, it has been beaten to death just like you and i know, should be high 130s.


i've never shifted into 5th at the track, always wound 4th out.

i don't recall arguing back and forth with you about a price, i asked if you could do any better, no reply, told you i'd get a hold of you when i was ready and you disappeared.

not a big deal though, i learned the hard way

Peter

 

Correct. And your welcome.

 

No one ever said you don't know your car, all they are saying is that its not making 630whp with that trap speed. It might have made 630whp on the dyno but it most definitely wasn't making it when you ran 131.72mph. This is the reason why dyno numbers don't mean much. Trap speed will tell you what the car is really doing. You shouldn't need slicks and John Force behind the wheel for your car to trap over 135mph. It should do that by accident with the power you are making.

 

Pete,


You know I love ya buddy You are one driving ****

You did not argue though, you asked if I could do better. That usually puts me off. If you ever need my help I got you though. You know it!!

I'm sorry you found out the hard way, text/pm/facebook me the details. Hope you come back better then ever!

Jr

 

It takes real skill to screw up something on e85 lol, pump gas takes 1 wrong key stroke.

Value for your time and skills is important especially in an industry of tooners who will do anything to score a tune.

 

alright, i can respect that.. the last time i went, right off the street i believe about 28psi it went 128mph, then i turned the boost up 1 full turn on hallman and it went 129, then again and 130, then again and 131.. so i was turning the boost up slowly and the mph kept going up.

the thing that scared me was, i have a 2.3L and every time i turned the boost up a full turn on the hallman i was reving out higher in 4th.. i got to the point i was going past 8500 just to get the 131..

that and i checked my oil and the engine was down a full quart and i did not have any extra with me so i called it quits at 131.72mph.. that was the last run of the day and the quickest & fastest of them all with the best 60ft as well. I was definitely getting into the groove and getting comfortable with the car, but due to the circumstances above i stopped.

next time i go out ill put the rx7 wheels on with the 26" hoosiers and it should go well over 135 based on what it did at 32psi so far at the track. my setup will continue to make good power per boost until about 38psi or so.

If I run the car full tilt at the track i am hoping for 140's out of it. ill get it weight next time also. the weight system was turned off since it was the tracks last day of the year.

 

Bumping this-

The car still runs excellent, zero issues since the tune. Car get's redlined EVERY time it's driven.

 

good stuff Travis.. i cant help but scroll up and see a bunch of awkward stuff in this thread.. im gonna put it to sleep right now..

my car was at Cecil a week ago with just 511WHP in dynojet vd and went 11.21 @ 128.69mph in 1/4.

Scott Frazho's car with 626WHP dynojet vd went 10.15 @ 140mph in 1/4 (stock block)

Berts car with 420WHP in dynojet vd went 121mph

Warren's car with 600whp dynojet vd went 137mph

now your cars next.. 150mph