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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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Sean I told me in his PM that the previous car that he worked on with AEM did not go well because the owner had a previous tuner that tampered with the settings...i don't know...about this guy..and Sean I , i'm only telling the truth, ya jackass
Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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i think i was "scared straight" on tuning for a little while after reading this
Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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why cant someone just post the features that should be turned on in the AEM to be safe. If everyone posted their settings, then others would be able to change theirs.
Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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don't trust online internet forumtune settings......settings that might work for another car might not work on your car...if you are not experienced with standalones, definitely go to a professional who has tuned many evos successfuly .... might be a lil expensive, but its worth it to ensure driveability and overal satisfaction in the long run
Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rraulston
why cant someone just post the features that should be turned on in the AEM to be safe. If everyone posted their settings, then others would be able to change theirs.

I am also curious to learn more about other tuner's ideas on the knock sensor and different strategies for configuring AEM's on street dirven cars. It seems that many AEM's are being set up without the knock control and without the AIT sensor.

Personally, I choose to activate and calibrate the knock control feature on all AEM's I tune - even on my race car. I find its very accurate and reliable. WiIth inconsistant pump gas and no ability to test the octane in the fuel you are getting on a daily basis. I find the knock control function a very helpful safeguard to protect against poor octane levels. It does take a little bit of time to data log and review the back ground noise level in a individudal engine and make decisions on where to set the level for activation of the knock control feature, however, I feel that is time well spent. I would strongly advise EVERYONE running a AEM to activate thier knock protection in the AEM.

Think about it - if you err on the side of too much knock control all that happens is your car looses a bit of power while the knock control retard and enrichment are active - big deal. If you dont have enough knock control and you get knock you risk blowing your engine and spending a lot of money to get it R & R 'd and fixed. To me its a simple choice to err on the side of caution.

Anyone who wants help on activating knock control - I am happy to do it for you via email for free.

As for the AIT temp sensor - I dont run one in my car - BUT I tune my car every time I drive it. On a street vehicle going through change in seasons a AIT sesnor is a must IMHO. Properly setting up the AIT sesnor is much more involved and requires tuning on several differnet days with different tempratures.

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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by groovytang
don't trust online internet forumtune settings......settings that might work for another car might not work on your car...if you are not experienced with standalones, definitely go to a professional who has tuned many evos successfuly .... might be a lil expensive, but its worth it to ensure driveability and overal satisfaction in the long run
While true that the fueling maps and ignition maps and idel etc must be taliored to the individual car - there are many AEM settings which can be discussed and shared over the internet. See the aem forums and www.aempower.com for more info on this.
Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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Please PM me with who it is... if it's who they say on this thread so far, I've got some changes to make

Thanks!
Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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Tuning an AEM EMS for success vs. granading engine

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Well, I still have my AEM, the tune is very safe now but I have to get the cold-start/warmup and gas mileage fixed (and replace my DP that I dented to hell). I'm going to be in the NYC area Friday and someone on the forum offered his services so I may try to get everything straight this weekend.

Also, a big part in this equation is not having a Air Intake Temperature Sensor installed with the MAP conversion, which my tuner that's mentioned in this thread didn't install nor did he turn knock control on.

And yes, the AEM isn't for everyone, I'm anxious to give it one more shot now that I can throw everything at my tuner, like the 30 degree weather.

Later,
JD
OK, here is what I know for sure. Scot Grey from LA gave me a map by email that's better than anything busted solutions came up with after dicking with the car for weeks. Also, Dyno4mance was able to tune my car much better than anyone else in Georgia.

Having said all that, please let me explain.....

First of all, Andrew & Barry from Dyno4mance don't claim to be AEM tuners. As a matter of fact, they told me more than once "we are not AEM tuners and we don't want anyone to think we are". Still, Barry and Andrew with the DD dyno did a much better job than Busted Solutions could ever do.

I don't know how Scot will feel about me printing this, but I would much rather pay his way from LA and pay his expenses plus dyno time to have him tune an AEM car than anybody else because I know his ability and knowledge of the AEM and I don't know the rest. Scot can almost tune your car via email by looking at the data logs

My ideal solution if I was still messing with the AEM in an otherwise good functioning car would be to have Scot prep and tune the car in the Dyno4mance dyno. If anyone who has these issues lives near Atlanta or Chattanooga, they'd be well advised to consider trying to arrange something like that. If you are lucky enough to live near LA, try to get Scot to help you with the car.

My $02 (based on multy $K's of bad experience)

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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by groovytang
Sean I told me in his PM that the previous car that he worked on with AEM did not go well because the owner had a previous tuner that tampered with the settings...i don't know...about this guy..and Sean I , i'm only telling the truth, ya jackass
Dude, let me start with a little advice for you........If you ever met or even seen Sean Ivey, I would not be calling him a jackass. I would love to see someone call that guy a jackass to his face and still survive. Sean is a true standup guy, 100% gentleman who would help anyone sharing the same passion for this hobby. Without mentioning his 9 sec. TRUE STREET talon tuned by himself

With that said, no it was not Sean who tuned my car......THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!

The point is that there are key factors that are being missed out on by several tuners out there, REGARDLESS of what shop they work for. My point is that if anyone is considering getting an AEM, you absolutely have to ask questions as to exactly what is involved in the install. The air intake temperature sensor is an ABSOLUTE MUST, no doubt about it and no excuse to not have one on a daily driver like mine. The knock control is another ABSOLUTE MUST, no excuse either.

These two alone were the MAJOR and most likely the DEFINITE reason my car detonated the way it did. This could have been done by anyone in particular regardless of what shop they work or tune for. That is the reason I am not saying to anyone "AVOID SHOP A, OR SHOP B" and not giving names because it could have been anyone, I'm sure the Dude that did mine has learned a lot more about the AEM since then and is more than likely providing many others out there with his services, NO PROBLEM

The choice is up to the individual to choose whomever they want to tune their car, my advice is again.........ASK PLENTY OF QUESTIONS FIRST, an EMS system is not for everyone, it is an awesome system works great, makes power beyond anything else, but is not for everyone and is definitely not tuned the same way by all out there.

Back to Sean I. I know he can tune his own car, and I know several people who have gone with his services with nothing but praise for his abilities

Al from Dynoflash can also now tune the AEM, from what I hear, and I know from David Buschur that they work closely with helping Al out when he has a question. And thats one thing I'll give Big Al, if he is not 100% sure and has any questions..he goes right to the main source= the DSM KING David Buschur himself...........

Oh, Dude Please take my advice and dont call Sean Ivey a jackass again, because if and when you ever get the pleasure to meet him.........You are in for a very "BIG" surprise

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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I am also curious to learn more about other tuner's ideas on the knock sensor and different strategies for configuring AEM's on street dirven cars. It seems that many AEM's are being set up without the knock control and without the AIT sensor.

Personally, I choose to activate and calibrate the knock control feature on all AEM's I tune - even on my race car. I find its very accurate and reliable. WiIth inconsistant pump gas and no ability to test the octane in the fuel you are getting on a daily basis. I find the knock control function a very helpful safeguard to protect against poor octane levels. It does take a little bit of time to data log and review the back ground noise level in a individudal engine and make decisions on where to set the level for activation of the knock control feature, however, I feel that is time well spent. I would strongly advise EVERYONE running a AEM to activate thier knock protection in the AEM.

Think about it - if you err on the side of too much knock control all that happens is your car looses a bit of power while the knock control retard and enrichment are active - big deal. If you dont have enough knock control and you get knock you risk blowing your engine and spending a lot of money to get it R & R 'd and fixed. To me its a simple choice to err on the side of caution.

Anyone who wants help on activating knock control - I am happy to do it for you via email for free.

As for the AIT temp sensor - I dont run one in my car - BUT I tune my car every time I drive it. On a street vehicle going through change in seasons a AIT sesnor is a must IMHO. Properly setting up the AIT sesnor is much more involved and requires tuning on several differnet days with different tempratures.
Thank you Big Al for adding this information, and taking the time to write this EXTREMELY useful stuff. This is pretty much what David Buschur explained to me in much more detail but in a nutshell is exactly what he told me.

You are learning well my young Jedi.......

Thanks Big Al............
Old Nov 25, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DA-4BANGA
Dude, let me start with a little advice for you........If you ever met or even seen Sean Ivey, I would not be calling him a jackass. I would love to see someone call that guy a jackass to his face and still survive. Sean is a true standup guy, 100% gentleman who would help anyone sharing the same passion for this hobby. Without mentioning his 9 sec. TRUE STREET talon tuned by himself

With that said, no it was not Sean who tuned my car......THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!

The point is that there are keys factors that are being missed out on by several tuners out there, REGARDLESS of what shop they work for. My point is that if anyone is considering getting an AEM, you absolutely have to ask questions as to exactly what is involved in the install. The air intake temperature sensor is an ABSOLUTE MUST, no doubt about it and no excuse to not have one on a daily driver like mine. The knock control is another ABSOLUTE MUST, no excuse either.

These two alone were the MAJOR and most likely the DEFINITE reason my car detonated the way it did. This could have been done by anyone in particular regardless of what shop they work or tune for. That is the reason I am not saying to anyone "AVOID SHOP A, OR SHOP B" and not giving names because it could have been anyone, I'm sure the Dude that did mine has learned a lot more about the AEM since then and is more than likely providing many others out there with his services, NO PROBLEM

The choice is up to the individual to choose whomever they want to tune their car, my advice is again.........ASK PLENTY OF QUESTIONS FIRST, an EMS system is not for everyone, it is an awesome system works great, makes power beyond anything else, but is not for everyone and is definitely not tuned the same way by all out there.

Back to Sean I. I know he can tune his own car, and I know several people who have gone with his services with nothing but praise for his abilities

Al from Dynoflash can also now tune the AEM, from what I hear, and I know from David Buschur that they work closely with helping Al out when he has a question. And thats one thing I'll give Big Al, if he is not 100% sure and has any questions..he goes right to the main source= the DSM KING David Buschur himself...........

Oh, Dude Please take my advice and dont call Sean Ivey a jackass again, because if and when you ever get the pleasure to meet him.........You are in for a very "BIG" surprise
I agree with everything you have said and I want to add that Sean Ivey is a very classy and decent guy. His accomplishments have distinquished him as one of the USA's best tuners and racers and he does it all by himself in his own garage. I watched the entire race season this year as he picked up win after win all year long on the same motor going a best of 9.9 without breaking or blowing up even once. He made every race all year - an amazing tuner and racer. Sean is a guy who knows a lot about tuning and racing and who should be respected as one of the best out there.

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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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I agree with everything you have said and I want to add that Sean Ivey is a very classy and decent guy. His accomplishments have distinquished him as one of the USA's best tuners and racers and he does it all by himself in his own garage. I watched the entire race season this year as he picked up win after win all year long on the same motor going a best of 9.9 without breaking or blowing up even once. He made every race all year - an amazing tuner and racer. Sean is a guy who knows a lot about tuning and racing and who should be respected as one of the best out there.
he does everything himself, as opposed to Al who gets help from shops around , sweet
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Originally Posted by groovytang
he does everything himself, as opposed to Al who gets help from shops around , sweet
Dude, who doesn't get help from others out there? Come on man relax, we should all be helping eachother out for this hobby..........chill dude
Old Nov 25, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by groovytang
he does everything himself, as opposed to Al who gets help from shops around , sweet
Groovytang - who are you really ?

This mascarade is getting old - https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&postcount=184

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Originally Posted by prostockCRX
dave says rwd evo8 on methanol and 7 second et's


wife allows a factory short block and a nice spot on the sofa


umm ya know!!!!! sorry to to read about this topic. you were french fried.lol
kenny you da man

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