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Old Jul 30, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Every AEM Uego and LM1 we use at the shop is .2 within each other.
I don't know where the 1 point came from, But there is absolutely nothing wrong with the AEM UNIT..
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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The new XD-1 from Innovative Motorsports is pretty kick ***. It's a piece of cake to install and the dash display is light years ahead of the old LM-1 set up.
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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The new XD-1 from Innovate Motorsports is pretty kick ***. It's a piece of cake to install and the dash display is light years ahead of the old LM-1 set up.
^^^^I would concur. Especially when it's mated with the lc-1 standalone:

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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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^^^^I would concur. Especially when it's mated with the lc-1 standalone:

Thats a very nice gauge set up!!! So are the calibration files already available for this set up on the AEM? Or can it be used with the current calibration files available?
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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^^ Good question??
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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Sorry for not responding sooner.

No, there aren't any calibration wizard set ups for the LC-1. Really, it's not necessary. Unlike the UEGO, the LC-1's analog output is linear. All you need to know is the voltage output at the lowest AFR and the voltage output at the highest AFR. Then you plug those numbers into the O2 calibration table, select the whole range of AFRs and tell the EMS software to "calculate" a linear calibration. I ended up tweaking the output of my LC-1's analog out so that it aligned with the possible values in the EMS calibration table. All in all it took about 15 minutes to set up the calibration table in the EMS and then recalibrate the LC-1 to match.

Also, to liberty2000rs's point, the XD-1 also needs the LC-1. It's a $400 combo package that Innovative sells. My post may have left some to believe that the XD-1 can stand alone as a WBO2 gauge. It cannot.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Precision Dyno
Every AEM Uego and LM1 we use at the shop is .2 within each other.
I don't know where the 1 point came from, But there is absolutely nothing wrong with the AEM UNIT..
Sorry
Perhaps you would like my AEM single channel unit, which has been sent in to AEM twice with no fix yet.. Which HAS shown a full point difference than a trusted dyno wideband. Lets see, I made 50 more hp tuning off the dyno, then tuning off the UEGO.. proof enough, I think so. Have a good day
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ninjadoc
Did you try sending it back to AEM? From what I've seen they in general try to work with people on getting their products right.
Quite the opposite for me..

Keep in mind, I have the AEM EMS, which I think is the best mod for the car to date. But I cannot believe AEM built this UEGO unit.. Many people curse the UEGO, just ask VTECH8TR.

This is regarding the UEGO kit that plugs into the AEM EMS, not the independant gauge type UEGO. From what I hear, the gauge unit works pretty well aside from not knowing anything below 11 afr.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Knyght
Quite the opposite for me..

Keep in mind, I have the AEM EMS, which I think is the best mod for the car to date. But I cannot believe AEM built this UEGO unit.. Many people curse the UEGO, just ask VTECH8TR.

This is regarding the UEGO kit that plugs into the AEM EMS, not the independant gauge type UEGO. From what I hear, the gauge unit works pretty well aside from not knowing anything below 11 afr.
I suspect you have an issue with your particular 1313U. I've got an early (pre s/n 38) unit with the internal UEGO. While the internal unit doesn't react as quickly as my IM XC-1, once the UEGO is properly calibrated both readings are in agreement across the entire range of 11.0:1 to 17:1. Perhaps it's because I used the XC-1 to calibrate the internal UEGO.

Regardless, my suggestion to anyone buying a new EMS would be to buy the non-UEGO EMS box and add on the Innovative Motorsports XC-1/XD-1 combo. The IM unit is more flexible and allows for a true free-air calibration so you know the readings coming from it are accurate.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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XD-1 WIDEBAND KIT

if you search you can find a really good price on the setup!!!!!!

check out the the video :
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by propellerhead
I suspect you have an issue with your particular 1313U. I've got an early (pre s/n 38) unit with the internal UEGO. While the internal unit doesn't react as quickly as my IM XC-1, once the UEGO is properly calibrated both readings are in agreement across the entire range of 11.0:1 to 17:1. Perhaps it's because I used the XC-1 to calibrate the internal UEGO.

Regardless, my suggestion to anyone buying a new EMS would be to buy the non-UEGO EMS box and add on the Innovative Motorsports XC-1/XD-1 combo. The IM unit is more flexible and allows for a true free-air calibration so you know the readings coming from it are accurate.
In hindsight, I had the LM-1 system and sold it for the "supposedly" more user friendly internal UEGO.. not a good idea but I was nieve at the time. You would think that another AEM product would work better with the AEM EMS than some other product.

I'm either going back to innovate motorsport, or going with FJO. Haven't decided
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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Ive posted elsewhere in this specific forum about thoughts on the PLX R500 and the EMS. Most of the features of the R500 can be had in the EMS, but when the R500 is utilized in and of itself , I would believe it to be either very thorough or completely useless as the AEM unit will do all of it to begin with, without the hassle of having two of everything. Any thoughts?
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Nevermind on that.......I just played with the newest version of the AEM software. A simple WB02 will do.....Im THAT impressed with how thorough that software is.
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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i agree the software is great especially the wizard programs. i myself got both the LM-1 and the UEGO but i havent tried the uego yet cause im really liking the LM-1 except for its bulkiness. i might give the UEGO a try but im not positive because of its inacurracy. Maybe i'll log the LM-1 then compare it to the UEGO
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by spoolinspyder
i agree the software is great especially the wizard programs. i myself got both the LM-1 and the UEGO but i havent tried the uego yet cause im really liking the LM-1 except for its bulkiness. i might give the UEGO a try but im not positive because of its inacurracy. Maybe i'll log the LM-1 then compare it to the UEGO
Not that you asked but if I were you, I'd buy a standalone LC-1 without the WBO2 sensor for $150. Loads cheaper than adding a UEGO and your LM-1 LSU4.2 sensor will plug right into the LC-1 controller. Then you can feed the EMS from one of the analog outputs on the LC-1 and then add a gauge later if you decide you need a dash display.
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