I'd love to give my .02 about dyno flash, but i'll just hush! u can search for my other posts about "THE FLASH"

 

who and what ran the 11.2@137!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats all i care about in this post know anyway!!!!!!!!!!! i did notice the improvement however, nice run.

 

LoL That was a REMATCH against a Supercharged viper! I thought i had him for sure, because the first time i raced him he only ran an 12.6 so i guess somebody learned how to drive!

 

are they any improvements from getting rid off your MAF and changing to MAP ?
If you are still on the stock turbo with bolt ons + headwork?

 

I didn't get rid of anything, Engine is still a virgin, untouched except for the basic stuff mentioned above, intake exhaust etc etc...AEM was just plugged up, and tuned!

 

Back to original statement, by looking at the first slips (which are hardly readable) you had very poor 60-foot times leading to your high e.t.'s The first two have both cars in the low 2.0 times. Not 1.8 as stated earlier.
Now that you are hooking up a decent launch at another track, the jump in performance is exagerated. Go back to that crappy track and run it with the EMS. Your times will be slower if the track is truly that bad.
I'm not knocking your accomplishment, I look forward to installing an EMS but it looks as though someone was trying to say you can gain a full second off of an EMS install. Hardly the case.

 

Cirrusly Evolvd, I think u should look at these slips again, the Good times ARE In fact at the "CRAPPY" Track! and yes I DID GAIN ONE FULL SECOND OF AN AEM INSTALL and EXCELLENT TUNING FROM DOUG! That IS the case!

 

Ok...I went back and looked at the slips again and I will show you where your information doesn't match up with what you are saying.

Time slip 1: 2.03 60ft @ 13.75
Time slip 2: 2.18 60ft @ 13.96

This was before EMS at the crappy track per your own words.

Time slip 3: 1.93 60ft @ 13.05
Time slip 4: 1.86 60ft @ 13.05

This shows that you had better launch times either due to weather, track or learning how to launch your car.

Time slip 5: 1.67 60ft @ 12.65
Time slip 6: 1.73 60ft @ 12.60

This is with the EMS on the same crappy track.
So when you view this info you can plainly see that a good .35 seconds (give or take a few hundredths) is attributed to you either learning how to launch or letting the EMS do it for you. This does not make your car faster, it makes YOU faster...by either your own ability or letting a computer drive for you.
So back to my original statement. You do the math (I'll let you figure it out) and you'll see that the EMS only gave you about 7/10ths faster, not a full second.

Yes I realize this is semantics but when you are racing on the strip 7/10 is 7/10, not a full second. And the track can't be that crappy if a computer can subtract 3/10ths on the launch where you couldn't.

 

I love my EMS. I now have control of my every move...

 

The only problem is picking up .3 in the 60' equals out to roughly .6 in the quarter. The EMS gained him only .4 in the quarter not counting the launch. This is 30-40 horsepower so not bad and what I would expect. The EMS did NOT pick him up .7 or 1.0 that is for damn sure. It even works looking at MPH. From his halfway decent run with no EMS he went 102 MPH. With EMS he went 106. This is 30-40 HP.

Remember fellas,
.1 faster in the 60' is about .2-.25 faster in the quarter.
10 horsepower is about .1
100 pounds lighter will net you about .1
100 pounds equals about 10 horsepower
.1 in the 1/4 is about a car length at the speeds we are going (100-130)
it takes about 10 more HP to gain 1 MPH in the 1/4

These rules of thumb work when consistent driving takes place. If you drive like crap one pass then drive like a pro the next, this goes out the window because you are introducing extraneous variables.

 

Hey, I'm kinda in a rush right now and wont be able to state ALL my points, however i will say this, and i will continue this later tonight... Slip 1 & 2 are at the "CRAPPY" Track 3&4 are at the "BETTER" track. I only posted slips 3&4 to prove to you guys that commerce in fact IS a "CRAPPY" Track. If you guys want to be stubbern and want to compare #s compare Slips 1&2 with 3&4 since all of these were at the same "CRAPPY" Track.

 

So in Simple words, you are comparing 13.750sec@98.56mph & 13.964sec@99.81mph with 12.654sec@106.45mph & 12.605sec@106.93mph, not what EVOTEXAS is assuming!

 

His 13 flat runs were done at a different track than the 13.7 runs. And his 12.6 runs was done
at the same track as the 13.7 run. In all yes his launch before sux and maybe it was driver but
at the same time the EMS did drop his times a second and add 7mph at the same track. Now you can say he learned to launch his car or drive it better which has dropped his times which is correct, But it is the ems that has made it easy to launch. Which means on top of the 40hp he gained he also got a car that was easier to launch. So back to my original statement the EMS did net him a second gain and almost 7mph. Call it like you see but this guy is in no way any different than any other average driving Evo customer.

Doug-

 

Doug you are right. But you forget one simple fact. The 60' he acheived with EMS are easily attainable by the guy who knows how to launch his AWD car. So you need to make the statement that while THIS guy picked up .7-1.0 with EMS, other EVO drivers that are already capable of this launch will only net about .4. You cannot factor in results of a variable like driver suckiness. Fair?

 

Uhm...I read your post, and you stated yourself that slip 1&2 were at the same track as 5&6. So therefore my prior post remains that same. You somehow found a way to drop your '60 times by nearly 4/10's at the same track. You can't attribute that to just the EMS unless you are really that bad at launching your car.