Currently I have a 4G93 1.8L turbo in a 2000 CE Lancer (2 door). At the moment I am using the standard 1.5L gearbox with a heavy duty clutch, however, I fell that it is about to give way as 2nd gear is getting harder and harder to find.

Just wondering what work would be needed to convert my Lancer to 4WD. The only reason I ask is that I have a 4WD box left over from the front cut I purchased and it seems like a waste just sitting in my garage.

Please if anyone knows of what needs to be done (the more details the better) I would really like to find out. Also any places that could give me more info would be great.

 

What was the front cut from? A CE GSR?
Converting to 4WD? From what I can make out, u'd be better off importin a CE GSR from NZ.. and throw the change at mods. The conversion would definantly not be cheap... & more then likely an absolute nightmare to get engineered.

A CC GSR would be much better investment.

 

Well a AWD conversion in a CE Lancer Coupe, is not going to be cheap. I would use the gearbox you got with the halfcut and lock the rear on it so it only drives the front wheels.

 

Go to

http://www.angelfire.com/droid/evocoupeweb/HOMEPAGE.htm

Have a look around at all the CC coupe AWD cars and its basically the same thing you gotta do. I've been waiting for someone like yourself to start asking about an AWD conversion to the CE model Lancer actually. My cousins friend here in Newcastle, has actually just converted his Black CE using genuine EVO6 AWD drivetrain and motor!

On the above link, join the EVO COUPE Yahoo Group and start asking questions there. I got a couple friends in New Zealand on the Yahoo Group that can get you the rear floorpan and parts you need to make it AWD.

In the meantime, can you send me pics and info of what you have done so far and approx cost. With your okay, I will set aside a new CE Lancer section on my website and your car can be the first featured conversion - even if you decide to still leave it FWD. This we we can help/show a lot of guys out there how it is done.

email me at: evo_cross@yahoo.com.au

Rob
evo_x_coupe

 

Thanks guys,

In response to all the messages, here's my thoughts:

The front cut was from a 2000 GSR (CE)

The reason I wanted to make it 4WD is for something different.

I have considered about locking the rear section of the 4WD box up was was advised against it because a) couldn't find anyone with the know-how and b) to me it would be a waste of a perfectly good box.

I know that it would cost a reasonable amount of money, however, how many 4WD CE Lancers are there?? Also I have fallen in love with the car that I have now.

As for engineering, a couple of the cars on the site that evo_x_coupe provided have RTA engineering approval, so it can't be hard if the job is done properly.

If anyone has any more information regarding the AWD conversion, please reply.

All the best

 

who much was the front cut?

 

The front cut cost me $4500 plus $500 freight. Got it shipped from Adelaide Jap Imports to Coffs Harbour. If you get a front cut from these guys, make sure you check the ECU. They sent me one for a non-turbo 1996 Mirage

It then took them almost 3 months to send me another one. I also bought a bigger radiator off them too and it took them 3 days to get it too me. Go figure.

 

After having a look at the website evo_x_coupe mentioned, would it be as easy as finding a rear cut from a similar make GSR and just supplementing what is missing/different on my Lancer with the ones out of the GSR?, or would things have to be fabricated??

 

evo_x_coupe: Nice site you have there, but I pretty sure the AWD coupe on your site is not the first. MMC Japan has always had AWD coupes, sedans and hatches in thier lineup. Though that could possibly be the first in Australia.

Once again nice site, though I can't say the GTR Proton is to my liking...each to their own I guess.

As for going for a 4WD conversion, honestly it's not really worth the hassle. True it can be done, but unless you have the alot of time and can do most of the work yourself, it ain't a cheap or easy conversion and gotta love your coupe that much to give it that much attention to work.

Cheers
T

 

You are right. It is a lot of money. I was just curious. I have asked heaps of people this question, but I was still yet to receive even a bit of information on it.

Still it would be cool. There isn't any real Evo's where I live (weird for a town with a pop of 60,000), let alone any 4WD CE Lancer coupes.

All the best

 

EVE00V: the money you spend in converting, you could pickup a genuine Evo. I know of 1 Evo4 for sale in Sydney, if your interested I could pass you his details. As for actually converting it...what kind of information do you need to know, I can only point out the snags you will run into with the floorpan etc...

Cheers
T

 

As much as you can tell me. The only answer that I have got from people supposedly "in the know", is "why bother". These are also the same people that told me that the front cut I bought would not fit into my Lancer , and that I would not be able to do it for under $6000. Pfft.

What I really like to know is what is the difference between a 2000 model CE Lancer and a GSR of the same year, i.e parts that are different.

As I mentioned before, would it be as easy as just getting a rear cut of a GSR and basically replacing the parts that differ?? I have been told that the rear diff in the GSR actually helps support the rear end of the car and that the tyre well must be changed, but have been unable to confirm how or why.

As for the Evo 4 idea. Thanks, but for the time being I think that I will stick with the car that I have got. It had spent 3 months off the road getting the front cut put in (importers sent me the wrong ECU and spent 2 and a helf months sending me the right one), plus I like a bit of a challenge.

 

EVE00V: what those people you spoke to have said and I echo that...is very true, not to mention you will never recover any of your money in the conversion whereas you can buy/drive a GSR/EVO straight away with heaps more power...preferrably the money save for an Evo.

OK I assume the front cut you have is a JDM 1.8 GSR, it's not what you need unless you want the 4G93T engine, don't forget any engine conversion must be of the same or later date than the car it is going into. But you do know the 4G63 from E4-7 all look the same and most engineers won't know the difference about 4-5K for an Evo motor and I believe an Evo 5 front cut with rear diff, floor etc is close to $20K, call a few places.

The deal is the floor pan is completely different from the firewall back due to the tailshaft, rear diff and crossmembers. You would need to find a GSR or Evo shell and then transplant the floor. Are you a skilled panelbeater if not find a good one because it's messy. Biggest problem is finding a cheap donor shell for the transplant.

Also even if you could get an engineer to sign it off or roadworthy...very hard, you face the problem of insuring it.

Seriously if you want to do it by all means it's your choice and it's different. As I said takes alot of time and money, Good Luck with the project.

Cheers
T

/edit: As for the wheel spec, GSR & Evo have AWD 4 x 114.5 where the FWD is 4 x 100.

 

Yeah, it is all expensive. I had heard that it could be done and was just curious how. I have however, already got the 1.8L engine in (from a 2000 GSR).

Traction is a big problem. Any suggestions on how to improve it or will it require more self control?

 

Fit an LSD problem solved.