Evo8DownUnder

Shining example of responsiblility more like it. You spend all your time extoling the virtues of a s/c install, but sweet FA discussing the pitfalls. And how many people install a s/c and then drive it like a stocker? Considering the younger demo of Lancer NA owners, you've gotta think that the vast majority of your clientele are going to use the new found power and drive more aggressively than usual. READ: Beyond the road rules.

Of course, you picked out what you wanted to. You may recall I said that if you can afford to do the job properly, go right ahead. It sounds good.

The TX3 was modded with an exhaust and chip. Legal with the NRMA.
The GSR was fully engineer approved, and had such essentials as Evo3 brakes.
As you correctly assumed, the WRX kit was an ADR approved mod
The Evo4 was unmodified bar a cat back HKS exhaust.

btw, still waiting for your brake upgrade kit details. Your car alledgedly has 180hp atw (I believe thats about 130kW), yet you run standard brakes, which would be drums at one end?

Raptor

The brake kit contains whatever the customer wants it to contain, and there are varying levels, the components are supplied to us by a brake specialist. Customers regularly have economic constraints and choose to take items one at a time as they can afford it, and they are welcome to have the braking however they want it.

I have various catalogues of engine kits for cars .... all types and even more numerous web references of suppliers of same. There is no significant difference (concerning brake inclusions in engine kits) between what they do and I do, so I imagine you are going to have a lot of letter writing ahead of you in order to make certain they are all responsible as you think they should be.

As for this What you are seeing as pitfalls really aren't, its just your way of seeing it. Me and other RSC owers are enjoying their machines everyday without any problem whatsoever. Everyone ( I have delt with) checks the cost of insurance before they buy, they recieve full instructions about how to service and maintain the vehicle which has been boosted, oil change times, fuel quality etc etc. There is comprehensive instructions on how to get the best out of the system together with warnings about how to properly (safely)dyno tune the car, etc etc etc. So what you have said ( in above) quote is way out of line.


This is all turning into a good thing, its getting to be revealed just how high a level on information is supplied to our customers, those who aren't customers never find out!

Have to get something together to give these EVO 8's a fright now Maybe a 250 kit should put them in their place nicely, with appropriate braking of course ... parachute/s

Evo8DownUnder

Peace.

I'll just add that I was referring to our online discussions here, not your conversations with customers prior to the install at your premises, so I don't think the quote was 'way out of line'.

Mivec

iTrader: (1)

“Those who are the first to judge are the first to be judged”

I feel you may have jumped the gun here Evo8DownUnder, I see your point and I think we all agree there are some valid points. However what you are failing to look at is the relationship behind the scenes with the customer. When you do research into the 4G93 you will find that these particular kits are among the best on the market. It is not the responsibility of the vendor to make sure you have the correct brakes or tyres that are legal or an appropriate suspension set up, funny enough though customers have told me how thorough he his in recommending such things.

Lets get back to topic please!

jedinathan

Hey guys - would it be viable to supercharge or tubo up an automatic?

Can anyone give me a complete rundown of what price I'd be looking at and what long term damage/replacements I'd be looking at?

Cheers!

tux

Dont know much about the costs associated, But i am sure it is viable to Supercharge an automatic, i know that there is one in Brisbane getting around, hes been in Hot4s etc. Its the Gremlin lancer (GREMLN) . The owner gets around on the boostcruising webpage and his car is currently for sale. I spose i havent answered your question, but at least it has been done before, sucessfully !

jedinathan

I have that Hot4s magazine and I do recall that car.

I'm just wondering what long term damage it could possibly do and how much I need to seriously save up for.

Raptor

We don't anything for automatics, so I guess a turbo will be the thing for you. RPW can do you a turbo for around the $6000 or so if you want if proper

Evo8DownUnder

Or you could just save the $6000, sell your car, and buy a nice CC GSR with all that cash.

jedinathan

Hmmm I couldn't sell my little beast now - not after all we've been through togethor!

I think supercharging it would be better for street racing...so I'll have to keep looking around then...

AznFlip

iTrader: (8)

what is wrong with having drums at one end? there are turbocharged lancer here in the u.s. rated at over 200hp atw and has rear drum brakes.

evo4two

Even Commodores and Falcons suffer from this problem and there stock with hundreds fo thousands of coins spent in devolepment on these components. So a company like DBA can prevent this when its there components that appear on C'dores and Falcons and with the revised parts fitted the consern is still occouring. I've seen cracks in the discs that you can see light through and shudder that feels like your a first time driver that aint got no cluch control and your roo hopping around a carpark somewhere.It comes down to the way its driven in my eyes. Keep up the maintence on the brakes (ie change the brake fluid more and inspect your brakes more) and dont drive like a toss, and they'll still look after you!


You own a high performance car do some high performance maintence.

Turtle_VR4

i have an auto to and i want to boost it in the future too. how did the gremlin lancer get a raptor supercharger if its auto?i reckon the stock brakes suck. i wana upgrade mine and im still NA.

seized

Vr4 , I myself have an auto but i do plan to boost this with supercharger from a 4agze (SC12). This is the eaton type and not the centrifugal type which is simmilar to turbos.

Yes there will be some power lost due to belt driven but it will more than make up for it when boost kicks in. As far as I heard of anyways (I could be wrong) but with this type of sc (positive displacement roots type) power is linear so torque comes in from down low so good for a little street cred. Its not like you can drag everyone on the street.

Centrifugal superchargers are like turbo , very good for drag specially but may also have lag characteristics like turbo albiet this days apparently lag are very minimal.

As for why supercharging cant be done to an auto, I realy dont know why we even questions this, I am sure there have been at least one factory supercharged auto out there.

Turtle_VR4

seized i saw this done in HOT4s aswel and looked good. youll have to keep me posted. i know autos can be supercharged look at mercs. with an auto the car will hold boost through gears since there is no throttle drop out.