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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LI Pinky
decisions...decisions...

When my build time finally does come i am throwing around two options, 35r and a 50 trim...I am looking for 500-600 awhp and i know that this is much more practical with the 35r but damn bang for your buck and not having to buy a stroker or build the motor...50 trim's are making just under 500 and are spoooling a a greeaat rate with stock bottum ends and stock 2.0l's! Good thing i not doing this anytime in the next year...lol i hae a lot of thinking to do
If you are going to be on pump all the time the 50 trim is for you, the 35r doesn't shine "to" much at those boost numbers. While if you are running race gas at times, you will probably want a 35r, the stock block has proven to handle 30-31 psi safely, and this is where you will get 50 more whp from a 35r. And if you ever deside to build your motor, the 35r not need to be replaced while the 50 trim, you will be itching to replace.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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^^^That is my philosophy behind the BBT67 and the 37R.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Hey Curt Brown, why did you change back to the 2.0l from Slow Boy's de-stroked 2.1l?...just wondering, positives or negatives (by the way amazing #'s man! awesome driving)
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CBRE
I drove it there on pump at 23 psi, OK spool-up, pulls good, keep the 50 trim if it's a street car, 37r is close to race only unless you run race gas all the time.
When did you see full boost(23PSI) on the street with pump gas?
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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I have an RnR 37r on the stock 2.0l and driving around in city traffic isn't all that bad at all. Lag is definatly over rated, I mean don't get me wrong there is still some lag but it's not as bad as people make it out to be. I get 28psi before 5k rpms. I only ran an 11.8 at the track but thats because i'm still an amateur at the track and I'm not reving the engine high enough (7800 rev limit)
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverEmperor
Hey Curt Brown, why did you change back to the 2.0l from Slow Boy's de-stroked 2.1l?...just wondering, positives or negatives (by the way amazing #'s man! awesome driving)
His SBR 2.1 threw a rod i believe.
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 05:58 AM
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The track times did not align with the 800whp dyno if I remember correctly. Lastly, compressor maps don't lie and when AMS tunes a 37R to the tune of 710awhp I doubt seriously that another shop is able to magically pull out a extra 90whp all IMO.
I don't think they run thier car.WIth Curt Brown weight(2900lbs),9.33 and 155MPH,a very rough WHP figure will be 848WHP.T67 is a great turbo!!
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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CBRE
I have a 2.0 and the 37r now, picked up 3mph first time out without re-dyno tuning, but due to poor local track conditions could not really better the et, ran 9.33. Upside is slowest it went was 153.5!
I am sure this car would have went faster that night, but due to him trying to get the jump on a 12 second car......... RED LIGHT

Car ran amazing however, it easily has 156-158 MPH in it very soon.

Mike Huml
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Any new news on this subject?
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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I would like to know also as my girlfriend has told me she may get me my turbo kit for Christmas!!!

I want 650 plus whp eventually but for now is this kit ok for a stock block until I get a stroker kit?
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tony gibson
Damn...SHearer said I could get the BB T-67 for 100 bucks cheaper than the 35r...So my project looks to be leaning towrds the BB T-67 with the SHearer mani on my stock bottom end lol!

for 100 buck difference i hope that isnt the reason why u choose it. i hope its cause thats the one u want.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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Ummm no lol...it makes more top end power than the 35r AND it is cheaper lol...I don't think 100 dollars would make a difference when I am already spending 4000.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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"I would like to know also as my girlfriend has told me she may get me my turbo kit for Christmas!!!

I want 650 plus whp eventually but for now is this kit ok for a stock block until I get a stroker kit?"

where can i find one of those!!!
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KOEvo
I would like to know if this combo is more effecient then a 35r on a stock bottum end.

So say 35r vs 37r @ 31 psi on racegas. What would net more power?
I still think this is the most important question that nees to be answered at this time.

We all know that on pump at 23 psi this turbo is going to be the same as the 35r; but i want a shop (hopefully AMS can chime in again) to enlighten us as to if a 37r would show gains over a 35r on race gas at 30 psi on a stock block.

We all know the 37r will show gains over the 35r at 40 psi, but many only plan on running 30 psi on the stock block, so i would like to know if a 37r is worth it; and i think answering this question will nail down a desision for the rest of you as well.

This is why:
- We know this turbo will not show significantly more power than a 35r on pump.
- We know this turbo WILL show significant gains on a built 2.0L and high boost (on race gas).

- We do know this turbo will show gains at 30psi on race gas on the stock block over a 35r, but we do not know how much and if it is enough to make the lag and extra price tag justifiable. (just for testing sake we should assume an 8k redline)

So really there is only 1 question to be answered; which will should put an end to this thread.

Edit: Better question... Would AMS recommend it?

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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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on race gas the 37R should show some significant gains over the 35R at 30 Psi. The problem is that on 30Psi that 37R can toss down as much as 600 plus whp and thats REALLY pushing the stock block.

Eric
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