Manuel, what is up with this?
George, I really hope you get Manual taken care of. Also I don't think it's good for business bringing this out in the open. I know if I had a problem with you and you were working on my car I would NOT want you to post it for everyone to read. Also why should he have to say Sorry? Just do the right thing and hope he does not sue you for bad work. You did remove his cat right
Originally Posted by chinalfr
Totaly disagree with your comment.
Don't you think there is a reason why there is a lot of Evo owner choose AEM over other engine management? My reason is that AEM EMS is user tuneable.
If there is a security feature or only can be tuned by "propriety software", AEM might not be my first choice.
I do understand your situation if end user start messing around the setting without any knowledges. All AEM user should start reading the PDF files that enclosed with the software. Without a good solid understanding of EFI, probably it's not a good idea to mess around with the setting.
Don't you think there is a reason why there is a lot of Evo owner choose AEM over other engine management? My reason is that AEM EMS is user tuneable.
If there is a security feature or only can be tuned by "propriety software", AEM might not be my first choice.
I do understand your situation if end user start messing around the setting without any knowledges. All AEM user should start reading the PDF files that enclosed with the software. Without a good solid understanding of EFI, probably it's not a good idea to mess around with the setting.
George
Originally Posted by Boost Solutions
I will get u a ride in the red car soon. We scared a black Porsche TT on the highway just with the exhaust note on the red Evo. And we were only 16psi... Untuned...
Does Pablo want a TT kit for the beast?
George
Does Pablo want a TT kit for the beast?
George
Last edited by IHatePorsche; Jun 8, 2004 at 09:33 PM.
Originally Posted by IHatePorsche
I think that with the money needed for a kit for his car he should buy an Evo 8...



George
George,
You were at the body shop and I was not. You took pictures and posted pictures, but those pictures have a some time in between and you and your shop had my car in between those times.
I never touched the wiring or any part of the installation of the mods. After May 15th when your great tuning got my car kicked out of the dyno after putting down 259.5 hp. Which everybody there saw. I began to work with other people to try and salvage my many thousand dollar investment in your expertise and my car.
You are running scared and trying your damnedest to pin the blame for your incompetent work on me or anybody else you can. All your writing and all your pictures are to be taken with a pound of salt. I do not lie, I have no reason to lie.
The facts:
You promised to finish my car in 3 days and it took you about 3 months over 3 different times. You've had my car in your shop for well over 4 weeks over those times.
Among the perfect work that you did were little details like leaving your O2 sensor hanging off the exhaust the first time you gave me the car, botching up the gauges installation, botching up twice the exhaust manifold shield, breaking my cam cover and never even installing the one you gave me off your car even after I took the car back specifically for that. This is no secret and is known and witnessed by lots of guys, EVO guys at 2 different dyno days and numerous times over the past 4 months.
Now, I wrote and called you from the very start asking you to take care of the driveability problems that plagued the car. You messed around with the car on at least 4 separate occasions and never could get the thing tuned right. Frankly, anybody else would have run from your shop (and some did) long before all the chances I gave you to make things right. Now on top of having a car that needs lots of work to correct your substandard and incompetent work, I'm having to defend myself against a bunch of lies and double talk from you and your employees...Shame on you George.
For the record, every single time I got a call after weeks of waiting you would tell me the "car is ready", and every single time, I got there late at night and had to wait hours while you messed around with the laptop until you decided the car was "great" and "the best tune possible", etc. Well pal, just saying so don't make it so. In the cold light of the day your tuning sucked so bad that I even have pictures of the clouds of smoke, huge black soot deposits on the pavement and on the car.
I can get sworn affidavits from people who know me and saw the car each time and will swear that it ran like @ss, smelled like a gasoline refinery, would not idle and would stall every time I let up on the gas pedal. This is the truth and not some pack of lies like your facile explanations and finger pointing.
I was in contact with a number of different folks once I finally decided that you could not tune my car and among others, Scot Gray helped me develop a map which I gave you along with datalogs to help you gain some knowledge of the AEM EMS. Scot's map will start and run my car much better than the maps you wrote. When you started talking all this incoherent talk about solderingb the wiring and changing the AEM UEGO and all kinds of crazy ideas to get my car to idle, I knew that you'd end up screwing it up worse. I knew that all your words were bullsh!t because Scot's map that he made over the phone worked perfectly and I did not want you experimenting with my car anymore.
You been blaming everything and everyone for your failure to tune my car properly. First you blamed my injectors saying they were high impedance "cheap" Honda injectors.... Of course, you never thought I'd take a multimeter and checked them, did you. Well, those "cheap" injectors are Denso, 620cc with 2.5 ohm impedance. Oh yeah, after you made me spend more hundreds of dollars on new injectors, the car still runs like crap so what is your excuse now?
Man, I was honest and starightforward with you. I defended you in the face of serious evidence that you were over your head. I paid you up front all the money you wanted and had to wait months for the stuff to come in. I gave you more than 4 chances to get my car right and you failed every time. You are so sure of yourself that you are blind to the evidence of your incompetence and now you are coming out with a bunch of half baked theories and outright lies about me sabotaging my own car. Man, you've got to be a piece of work..... Why in the hell would I sabotage my own car? Why would I cause myself months of problems and worries? Do you think I'm some kind of nut?
The biggest part of the blame I have in this whole sorry mess is that I went to you and trusted you with my car. I believed all your talk and your promises. I guess that part was my fault. Ryan and Todd among others warned me against doing business with you. I should have listened to them. Well, It's too late for that now, but it's not to late to cut my losses and keep you as far away from my car as I can.
I'll not be needing your services any more, I'm going to take the car to a reputable and capable mechanic to get it tuned right and straighten out as much of the botched up job you and your mechanics did to my car. You should be ashamed of yourself. Once for setting yourself up as an expert in a field that you don't know well, and secondly for trying to blame me, the customer, the guy who gave you all the money and trusted you..... Not only that but you'll stoop as low as you need to fabricate evidence, lie and confuse people.
I gave you even one more chance to set things right, and instead of concentrating of taking care of the car, you decided to sic your dogs on me and try twist the truth around to make me the bad guy...... George, you really screwed up. If you would have at least kept your mouth shut and your dogs off me, I would have considered keeping all this quiet and trying to work things out between us and off the public eye. Now, it's too late. You sling mud on me, but you'll find that the mud slinger get more mud on himself. I'll bet there wont be many people in Atlanta or B'ham that will trust you with their EVOs after this.... Don't forget, you might fool some folks who are far away and don't know me and you, but the ppl here are probably not going to trust you much. I know I never will recommend you or your shop to anybody else lest they suffer the same fate as I.
You were at the body shop and I was not. You took pictures and posted pictures, but those pictures have a some time in between and you and your shop had my car in between those times.
I never touched the wiring or any part of the installation of the mods. After May 15th when your great tuning got my car kicked out of the dyno after putting down 259.5 hp. Which everybody there saw. I began to work with other people to try and salvage my many thousand dollar investment in your expertise and my car.
You are running scared and trying your damnedest to pin the blame for your incompetent work on me or anybody else you can. All your writing and all your pictures are to be taken with a pound of salt. I do not lie, I have no reason to lie.
The facts:
You promised to finish my car in 3 days and it took you about 3 months over 3 different times. You've had my car in your shop for well over 4 weeks over those times.
Among the perfect work that you did were little details like leaving your O2 sensor hanging off the exhaust the first time you gave me the car, botching up the gauges installation, botching up twice the exhaust manifold shield, breaking my cam cover and never even installing the one you gave me off your car even after I took the car back specifically for that. This is no secret and is known and witnessed by lots of guys, EVO guys at 2 different dyno days and numerous times over the past 4 months.
Now, I wrote and called you from the very start asking you to take care of the driveability problems that plagued the car. You messed around with the car on at least 4 separate occasions and never could get the thing tuned right. Frankly, anybody else would have run from your shop (and some did) long before all the chances I gave you to make things right. Now on top of having a car that needs lots of work to correct your substandard and incompetent work, I'm having to defend myself against a bunch of lies and double talk from you and your employees...Shame on you George.
For the record, every single time I got a call after weeks of waiting you would tell me the "car is ready", and every single time, I got there late at night and had to wait hours while you messed around with the laptop until you decided the car was "great" and "the best tune possible", etc. Well pal, just saying so don't make it so. In the cold light of the day your tuning sucked so bad that I even have pictures of the clouds of smoke, huge black soot deposits on the pavement and on the car.
I can get sworn affidavits from people who know me and saw the car each time and will swear that it ran like @ss, smelled like a gasoline refinery, would not idle and would stall every time I let up on the gas pedal. This is the truth and not some pack of lies like your facile explanations and finger pointing.
I was in contact with a number of different folks once I finally decided that you could not tune my car and among others, Scot Gray helped me develop a map which I gave you along with datalogs to help you gain some knowledge of the AEM EMS. Scot's map will start and run my car much better than the maps you wrote. When you started talking all this incoherent talk about solderingb the wiring and changing the AEM UEGO and all kinds of crazy ideas to get my car to idle, I knew that you'd end up screwing it up worse. I knew that all your words were bullsh!t because Scot's map that he made over the phone worked perfectly and I did not want you experimenting with my car anymore.
You been blaming everything and everyone for your failure to tune my car properly. First you blamed my injectors saying they were high impedance "cheap" Honda injectors.... Of course, you never thought I'd take a multimeter and checked them, did you. Well, those "cheap" injectors are Denso, 620cc with 2.5 ohm impedance. Oh yeah, after you made me spend more hundreds of dollars on new injectors, the car still runs like crap so what is your excuse now?
Man, I was honest and starightforward with you. I defended you in the face of serious evidence that you were over your head. I paid you up front all the money you wanted and had to wait months for the stuff to come in. I gave you more than 4 chances to get my car right and you failed every time. You are so sure of yourself that you are blind to the evidence of your incompetence and now you are coming out with a bunch of half baked theories and outright lies about me sabotaging my own car. Man, you've got to be a piece of work..... Why in the hell would I sabotage my own car? Why would I cause myself months of problems and worries? Do you think I'm some kind of nut?
The biggest part of the blame I have in this whole sorry mess is that I went to you and trusted you with my car. I believed all your talk and your promises. I guess that part was my fault. Ryan and Todd among others warned me against doing business with you. I should have listened to them. Well, It's too late for that now, but it's not to late to cut my losses and keep you as far away from my car as I can.
I'll not be needing your services any more, I'm going to take the car to a reputable and capable mechanic to get it tuned right and straighten out as much of the botched up job you and your mechanics did to my car. You should be ashamed of yourself. Once for setting yourself up as an expert in a field that you don't know well, and secondly for trying to blame me, the customer, the guy who gave you all the money and trusted you..... Not only that but you'll stoop as low as you need to fabricate evidence, lie and confuse people.
I gave you even one more chance to set things right, and instead of concentrating of taking care of the car, you decided to sic your dogs on me and try twist the truth around to make me the bad guy...... George, you really screwed up. If you would have at least kept your mouth shut and your dogs off me, I would have considered keeping all this quiet and trying to work things out between us and off the public eye. Now, it's too late. You sling mud on me, but you'll find that the mud slinger get more mud on himself. I'll bet there wont be many people in Atlanta or B'ham that will trust you with their EVOs after this.... Don't forget, you might fool some folks who are far away and don't know me and you, but the ppl here are probably not going to trust you much. I know I never will recommend you or your shop to anybody else lest they suffer the same fate as I.
I'm confused ?
Who flamed who first on the site ????? Silver evo 8 didn't you run a 13.1 with a slipping clutch at that slow a** track ? Help me understand what happen between the 13.1 run and the dyno day from hell......
Who flamed who first on the site ????? Silver evo 8 didn't you run a 13.1 with a slipping clutch at that slow a** track ? Help me understand what happen between the 13.1 run and the dyno day from hell......
Ya but his MPH sucked, check out his dyno, it's about 20whp LESS then all the other cars with the same mods and the power curve is like a mustang. I think if you do work with Boost Solutions you are a dumb chit. Manual got screwed BAD!
Originally Posted by tru evo
I'm confused ?
Who flamed who first on the site ????? Silver evo 8 didn't you run a 13.1 with a slipping clutch at that slow a** track ? Help me understand what happen between the 13.1 run and the dyno day from hell......
Who flamed who first on the site ????? Silver evo 8 didn't you run a 13.1 with a slipping clutch at that slow a** track ? Help me understand what happen between the 13.1 run and the dyno day from hell......
Originally Posted by tru evo
I'm confused ?
Who flamed who first on the site ????? Silver evo 8 didn't you run a 13.1 with a slipping clutch at that slow a** track ? Help me understand what happen between the 13.1 run and the dyno day from hell......
Who flamed who first on the site ????? Silver evo 8 didn't you run a 13.1 with a slipping clutch at that slow a** track ? Help me understand what happen between the 13.1 run and the dyno day from hell......
Originally Posted by snoop
I wish it didn't come to this.
Originally Posted by chinalfr
Me, too. 

So where do you go from here Manual? Put the stock computer back in and do a reflash? Or a xede or something like that? I think the stock computer works great unless it's a full race car then I would not pull it. If this was my car I would put the stock injectors and fuel rail back in, put it back to MAF and put the stock air box in and the stock computer. The car will run FINE with the stock computer I did it like this for a week. Once the car is running correctly then you can go from there.
Originally Posted by 2Fast2Stupid
Ya but his MPH sucked, check out his dyno, it's about 20whp LESS then all the other cars with the same mods and the power curve is like a mustang. I think if you do work with Boost Solutions you are a dumb chit. Manual got screwed BAD!
It running great! I had 300 miles on the track 2 weeks ago in 95 heat and drove over 1 hour at a time with 0 problems. Man is there anything you can do with Manual? I feel sorry for him man, he spends all this money now it runs like chit. What about putting the stock computer back in and do a flash or a e-manage or something...
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Originally Posted by Boost Solutions
Ryan, I kinda agree with you, but I cannot have all teh people badmounthing us for something that we have not done.
Bad work - that is teh point, we want to show it is not us doing all that.
How is your beast running? Let me know...
George
George you can post all the PM's I send you if you want, but I though PM = Priv message but I guess not 'eh? Anyway the deal is to get his car right, I think you should put it back to a running state and then let him do what he wants, right now his car does not run, and it will never pass emissions without a cat and it has a stand alone that will fail emissions as well. If Manual wanted to be a *** he could say you removed his cat and you will get hit with a HUGE fine.


