Manuel, what is up with this?
Manuel or should I address you as something else since you want to start name calling.
Hey, guess what those pictures are not fake! There were a few witnesses that day at the body shop.
The manager there even said that you came in with your labtop and did something and then left.
Could it be that you changed your map thinking that George would forget that you emailed him an already admitted changing it.
Stop being a liar and don't ever name call me again
I have integrity and I know what I've seen and heard. I am sorry to say that you are at fault in this situation.
What were you thinking in general. You say how great those guys were at the dyno and then email George and say," I hope they didn't touch anything" - left names out - Guess what, they didn't, but you did
You say that George got the dogs after you. Come on man, your boys have been trying to back you up best they can even though you talk about them behind their backs. You try to play mister innocent, but you are not!
You weren't happy so you decided to play and made things much worse.
Your car won't start because of you!
Stop pointint the finger at everyone but yourself. Look in the mirror and realize that you messed up and APOLOGIZE!
You keep tap dancing on these posts and I'm not impressed. Even if you guages were botched, and you camgear cover was missing your car would still be running.
It is not though and these desparate cries for help and sympothy are running out.
You are posting defensively.
You are name calling - very unprofessional!
It's over, so leave it alone. Your credability is GONE
Hey, guess what those pictures are not fake! There were a few witnesses that day at the body shop.
The manager there even said that you came in with your labtop and did something and then left.
Could it be that you changed your map thinking that George would forget that you emailed him an already admitted changing it.
Stop being a liar and don't ever name call me again
I have integrity and I know what I've seen and heard. I am sorry to say that you are at fault in this situation.
What were you thinking in general. You say how great those guys were at the dyno and then email George and say," I hope they didn't touch anything" - left names out - Guess what, they didn't, but you did
You say that George got the dogs after you. Come on man, your boys have been trying to back you up best they can even though you talk about them behind their backs. You try to play mister innocent, but you are not!
You weren't happy so you decided to play and made things much worse.
Your car won't start because of you!
Stop pointint the finger at everyone but yourself. Look in the mirror and realize that you messed up and APOLOGIZE!
You keep tap dancing on these posts and I'm not impressed. Even if you guages were botched, and you camgear cover was missing your car would still be running.
It is not though and these desparate cries for help and sympothy are running out.
You are posting defensively.
You are name calling - very unprofessional!
It's over, so leave it alone. Your credability is GONE
Last edited by mdzuricky77; Jun 9, 2004 at 11:27 AM. Reason: forgot word
Quote: mdzuricky77 has spent the last 7 years in the military protecting this country.....I do not see him calling anyone here names, he is only posting cause it upsets him when he see's people saying incorrect things that he has seen with his own eyes and knows not to be true.
Quote: What's up evoindahouse, evopimpin, 2fast2furious, dynoking!
You've been kicked of this forum many times.
Give up!
You opinions are not valid!
Go away!
Go on a diet!
Quote: What's up evoindahouse, evopimpin, 2fast2furious, dynoking!
You've been kicked of this forum many times.
Give up!
You opinions are not valid!
Go away!
Go on a diet!
Originally Posted by mdzuricky77
Manuel or should I address you as something else since you want to start name calling.
Ignorant: unaware or uninformed, showing a lack of education or knowledge
fool: one who is deficient in judgement, sense or understanding, one who can easily be tricked or duped
These definitions are from the American Heritage dictionary. From all your posts and all the communications I've had with you, these definitions apply emminently to you. You don't have enough knowledge of the situation and you don't have enough sense to stay out of it. I think ignorant fool applies rather well.
Manuel
With all the crap he has said in the past to various people, in a way yes. He doesn't need to be in here and it's frustrating.
He has been kicked off this forum how many times?
He has been kicked off this forum how many times?
Tap dancing again are we. You still haven't faced the facts. I'm such an ignorant fool Manuel. You're on it, you know me so well. Now that that's done please explain why your car is not running because ignorant people need to be told more than once.
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Originally Posted by mdzuricky77
You keep tap dancing on these posts and I'm not impressed. Even if you guages were botched, and you camgear cover was missing your car would still be running.
A Sad day!
"I dream of day that all EVO owners and tunners live to together in perfect harmony" 
The reality is the world is not this way.
Alot of people have been giving there 2 cents on situation but reality is there are only a few EVO owners that know both Manuel and George and know the truth. This thread will get ugly if not closed soon. Some of people posting have known both Manuel and George since EVO came out and many of us have hung out at Boost Solutions. I am sadden by the whole situation.
Peace,
Snoop
The reality is the world is not this way.
Alot of people have been giving there 2 cents on situation but reality is there are only a few EVO owners that know both Manuel and George and know the truth. This thread will get ugly if not closed soon. Some of people posting have known both Manuel and George since EVO came out and many of us have hung out at Boost Solutions. I am sadden by the whole situation.
Peace,
Snoop
Originally Posted by mdzuricky77
Tap dancing again are we. You still haven't faced the facts. I'm such an ignorant fool Manuel. You're on it, you know me so well. Now that that's done please explain why your car is not running because ignorant people need to be told more than once.
Originally Posted by 2Fast2Stupid
So where do you go from here Manual? Put the stock computer back in and do a reflash? Or a xede or something like that? I think the stock computer works great unless it's a full race car then I would not pull it. If this was my car I would put the stock injectors and fuel rail back in, put it back to MAF and put the stock air box in and the stock computer. The car will run FINE with the stock computer I did it like this for a week. Once the car is running correctly then you can go from there.
Sadly, I'm not a mechanic and I don't have the time or place and tools to do all the work my car needs. I do believe that there are people out there who will help me to get the car sorted out. I just need to regroup, look at my options and take appropriate action...... I'd be happy if my car ran as well as yours, even if I paid several more $K than you did. At least I'd have more to show for all the aggravation, time and expense 
Originally Posted by silverEVO8
George,
You were at the body shop and I was not. You took pictures and posted pictures, but those pictures have a some time in between and you and your shop had my car in between those times.
I never touched the wiring or any part of the installation of the mods. After May 15th when your great tuning got my car kicked out of the dyno after putting down 259.5 hp. Which everybody there saw. I began to work with other people to try and salvage my many thousand dollar investment in your expertise and my car.
You are running scared and trying your damnedest to pin the blame for your incompetent work on me or anybody else you can. All your writing and all your pictures are to be taken with a pound of salt. I do not lie, I have no reason to lie.
The facts:
You promised to finish my car in 3 days and it took you about 3 months over 3 different times. You've had my car in your shop for well over 4 weeks over those times.
Among the perfect work that you did were little details like leaving your O2 sensor hanging off the exhaust the first time you gave me the car, botching up the gauges installation, botching up twice the exhaust manifold shield, breaking my cam cover and never even installing the one you gave me off your car even after I took the car back specifically for that. This is no secret and is known and witnessed by lots of guys, EVO guys at 2 different dyno days and numerous times over the past 4 months.
Now, I wrote and called you from the very start asking you to take care of the driveability problems that plagued the car. You messed around with the car on at least 4 separate occasions and never could get the thing tuned right. Frankly, anybody else would have run from your shop (and some did) long before all the chances I gave you to make things right. Now on top of having a car that needs lots of work to correct your substandard and incompetent work, I'm having to defend myself against a bunch of lies and double talk from you and your employees...Shame on you George.
For the record, every single time I got a call after weeks of waiting you would tell me the "car is ready", and every single time, I got there late at night and had to wait hours while you messed around with the laptop until you decided the car was "great" and "the best tune possible", etc. Well pal, just saying so don't make it so. In the cold light of the day your tuning sucked so bad that I even have pictures of the clouds of smoke, huge black soot deposits on the pavement and on the car.
I can get sworn affidavits from people who know me and saw the car each time and will swear that it ran like @ss, smelled like a gasoline refinery, would not idle and would stall every time I let up on the gas pedal. This is the truth and not some pack of lies like your facile explanations and finger pointing.
I was in contact with a number of different folks once I finally decided that you could not tune my car and among others, Scot Gray helped me develop a map which I gave you along with datalogs to help you gain some knowledge of the AEM EMS. Scot's map will start and run my car much better than the maps you wrote. When you started talking all this incoherent talk about solderingb the wiring and changing the AEM UEGO and all kinds of crazy ideas to get my car to idle, I knew that you'd end up screwing it up worse. I knew that all your words were bullsh!t because Scot's map that he made over the phone worked perfectly and I did not want you experimenting with my car anymore.
You been blaming everything and everyone for your failure to tune my car properly. First you blamed my injectors saying they were high impedance "cheap" Honda injectors.... Of course, you never thought I'd take a multimeter and checked them, did you. Well, those "cheap" injectors are Denso, 620cc with 2.5 ohm impedance. Oh yeah, after you made me spend more hundreds of dollars on new injectors, the car still runs like crap so what is your excuse now?
Man, I was honest and starightforward with you. I defended you in the face of serious evidence that you were over your head. I paid you up front all the money you wanted and had to wait months for the stuff to come in. I gave you more than 4 chances to get my car right and you failed every time. You are so sure of yourself that you are blind to the evidence of your incompetence and now you are coming out with a bunch of half baked theories and outright lies about me sabotaging my own car. Man, you've got to be a piece of work..... Why in the hell would I sabotage my own car? Why would I cause myself months of problems and worries? Do you think I'm some kind of nut?
The biggest part of the blame I have in this whole sorry mess is that I went to you and trusted you with my car. I believed all your talk and your promises. I guess that part was my fault. Ryan and Todd among others warned me against doing business with you. I should have listened to them. Well, It's too late for that now, but it's not to late to cut my losses and keep you as far away from my car as I can.
I'll not be needing your services any more, I'm going to take the car to a reputable and capable mechanic to get it tuned right and straighten out as much of the botched up job you and your mechanics did to my car. You should be ashamed of yourself. Once for setting yourself up as an expert in a field that you don't know well, and secondly for trying to blame me, the customer, the guy who gave you all the money and trusted you..... Not only that but you'll stoop as low as you need to fabricate evidence, lie and confuse people.
I gave you even one more chance to set things right, and instead of concentrating of taking care of the car, you decided to sic your dogs on me and try twist the truth around to make me the bad guy...... George, you really screwed up. If you would have at least kept your mouth shut and your dogs off me, I would have considered keeping all this quiet and trying to work things out between us and off the public eye. Now, it's too late. You sling mud on me, but you'll find that the mud slinger get more mud on himself. I'll bet there wont be many people in Atlanta or B'ham that will trust you with their EVOs after this.... Don't forget, you might fool some folks who are far away and don't know me and you, but the ppl here are probably not going to trust you much. I know I never will recommend you or your shop to anybody else lest they suffer the same fate as I.
You were at the body shop and I was not. You took pictures and posted pictures, but those pictures have a some time in between and you and your shop had my car in between those times.
I never touched the wiring or any part of the installation of the mods. After May 15th when your great tuning got my car kicked out of the dyno after putting down 259.5 hp. Which everybody there saw. I began to work with other people to try and salvage my many thousand dollar investment in your expertise and my car.
You are running scared and trying your damnedest to pin the blame for your incompetent work on me or anybody else you can. All your writing and all your pictures are to be taken with a pound of salt. I do not lie, I have no reason to lie.
The facts:
You promised to finish my car in 3 days and it took you about 3 months over 3 different times. You've had my car in your shop for well over 4 weeks over those times.
Among the perfect work that you did were little details like leaving your O2 sensor hanging off the exhaust the first time you gave me the car, botching up the gauges installation, botching up twice the exhaust manifold shield, breaking my cam cover and never even installing the one you gave me off your car even after I took the car back specifically for that. This is no secret and is known and witnessed by lots of guys, EVO guys at 2 different dyno days and numerous times over the past 4 months.
Now, I wrote and called you from the very start asking you to take care of the driveability problems that plagued the car. You messed around with the car on at least 4 separate occasions and never could get the thing tuned right. Frankly, anybody else would have run from your shop (and some did) long before all the chances I gave you to make things right. Now on top of having a car that needs lots of work to correct your substandard and incompetent work, I'm having to defend myself against a bunch of lies and double talk from you and your employees...Shame on you George.
For the record, every single time I got a call after weeks of waiting you would tell me the "car is ready", and every single time, I got there late at night and had to wait hours while you messed around with the laptop until you decided the car was "great" and "the best tune possible", etc. Well pal, just saying so don't make it so. In the cold light of the day your tuning sucked so bad that I even have pictures of the clouds of smoke, huge black soot deposits on the pavement and on the car.
I can get sworn affidavits from people who know me and saw the car each time and will swear that it ran like @ss, smelled like a gasoline refinery, would not idle and would stall every time I let up on the gas pedal. This is the truth and not some pack of lies like your facile explanations and finger pointing.
I was in contact with a number of different folks once I finally decided that you could not tune my car and among others, Scot Gray helped me develop a map which I gave you along with datalogs to help you gain some knowledge of the AEM EMS. Scot's map will start and run my car much better than the maps you wrote. When you started talking all this incoherent talk about solderingb the wiring and changing the AEM UEGO and all kinds of crazy ideas to get my car to idle, I knew that you'd end up screwing it up worse. I knew that all your words were bullsh!t because Scot's map that he made over the phone worked perfectly and I did not want you experimenting with my car anymore.
You been blaming everything and everyone for your failure to tune my car properly. First you blamed my injectors saying they were high impedance "cheap" Honda injectors.... Of course, you never thought I'd take a multimeter and checked them, did you. Well, those "cheap" injectors are Denso, 620cc with 2.5 ohm impedance. Oh yeah, after you made me spend more hundreds of dollars on new injectors, the car still runs like crap so what is your excuse now?
Man, I was honest and starightforward with you. I defended you in the face of serious evidence that you were over your head. I paid you up front all the money you wanted and had to wait months for the stuff to come in. I gave you more than 4 chances to get my car right and you failed every time. You are so sure of yourself that you are blind to the evidence of your incompetence and now you are coming out with a bunch of half baked theories and outright lies about me sabotaging my own car. Man, you've got to be a piece of work..... Why in the hell would I sabotage my own car? Why would I cause myself months of problems and worries? Do you think I'm some kind of nut?
The biggest part of the blame I have in this whole sorry mess is that I went to you and trusted you with my car. I believed all your talk and your promises. I guess that part was my fault. Ryan and Todd among others warned me against doing business with you. I should have listened to them. Well, It's too late for that now, but it's not to late to cut my losses and keep you as far away from my car as I can.
I'll not be needing your services any more, I'm going to take the car to a reputable and capable mechanic to get it tuned right and straighten out as much of the botched up job you and your mechanics did to my car. You should be ashamed of yourself. Once for setting yourself up as an expert in a field that you don't know well, and secondly for trying to blame me, the customer, the guy who gave you all the money and trusted you..... Not only that but you'll stoop as low as you need to fabricate evidence, lie and confuse people.
I gave you even one more chance to set things right, and instead of concentrating of taking care of the car, you decided to sic your dogs on me and try twist the truth around to make me the bad guy...... George, you really screwed up. If you would have at least kept your mouth shut and your dogs off me, I would have considered keeping all this quiet and trying to work things out between us and off the public eye. Now, it's too late. You sling mud on me, but you'll find that the mud slinger get more mud on himself. I'll bet there wont be many people in Atlanta or B'ham that will trust you with their EVOs after this.... Don't forget, you might fool some folks who are far away and don't know me and you, but the ppl here are probably not going to trust you much. I know I never will recommend you or your shop to anybody else lest they suffer the same fate as I.
MAnuel, you call call these picture slies, but that is why we took the, to show the people who is right and who is wrong.
You still never told me why the sensors were connected, and why you were lying to everybody about tuning the map yourself.
Since we were hit with lies about who touche dteh AEM, and the sensors, WE CANNOT BELIEVE YOU THAT YOU DYNOED OUR MAP ON MAY15th.
The way I see it, and everybody else sees it, it is your word vs our pictures and prooves. Our explanation might be to complcated for you, but for teh rest of teh Evo crowd excluding several ATL guys, it is perfectly clear. That is a regular situation where the customer changes stuff himself, and then blames it on the shop. Too bad, but we HAVE WITNESSES about your wiring experiences.
Like I was telling I wanted to take care of the car, but it does not seem that we are the ones who messed it up.
About the claims that our tuning sucks, you are teh only one complaining, we have tuned many different cars, with S-AFC, e-manage, HKS S-AFR, AEM EMS, and Autronic SM2 ( let me know if these trems are still hard for you to understand, I will take some more time to explain). And all cars are running great.
Since you are the only one doing these claims, probably the problem is not in us?
Final words: to the regular reader ( not Ryan, Snoop, Racer RSX, etc) these pictures and facts matter. You can post whatever, but the unbiased people will look at it and see what happened with the car while IT WAS OUT OF HERE.
One more thing: you were saying you do not know anything about cars and drive like an old lady. But you used to own a supercharged Acura Integra, and a modified WRX? These facts kinda do not go together.
George