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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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Can't find Knock Retard

Hi!
I am currently using cobb stg 2 with AMS intake.
(Cobb AP firmware is v1.6.5.0-2223)

I would like to check knocking of my Evo X so I tried to log some data but somehow I couldn't find 'Knock Retard' on any Cobb AP menu like Set Live Data List and Set Data Log List . There is 'Knock Sum' instead of 'Knock Retard'.
I actually repeated to look for the 'Knock Retard after I reset ECU. However, No luck..

Do you guys have any idea??
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LanEvoX
Hi!
I am currently using cobb stg 2 with AMS intake.
(Cobb AP firmware is v1.6.5.0-2223)

I would like to check knocking of my Evo X so I tried to log some data but somehow I couldn't find 'Knock Retard' on any Cobb AP menu like Set Live Data List and Set Data Log List . There is 'Knock Sum' instead of 'Knock Retard'.
I actually repeated to look for the 'Knock Retard after I reset ECU. However, No luck..

Do you guys have any idea??
Knock retard = 1/3 Knock count, ie 3 knocks = 1 retard :-)
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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So Knock sum = Knock count?
What % of Learned Knock is good ?
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LanEvoX
So Knock sum = Knock count?
What % of Learned Knock is good ?
1) yes
2) 0
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by xhomm02
1) yes
2) 0
Not entirely true. Most cars you will see a little knock off idle from a stop so 0 is almost never the reading in learned knock on the AP from what I've seen.
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 12:04 PM
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i haven't updated my AP or logged my car in a while. They used to have Knock Retard and Learned Knock Regard as a loggable/viewable setting. I guess now it's just changed to knock sum?
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverEvoX
Not entirely true. Most cars you will see a little knock off idle from a stop so 0 is almost never the reading in learned knock on the AP from what I've seen.
Hmm, interesting...

I have a self-tuned MR and even though I see some knock here and there, I have never seen any Learned knock retard. Maybe because I invested so much time fighting knock
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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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As long as you aren't getting CONSISTENT knock at any one RPM ( always getting knock at 5000rpm) 1-2 counts is fine. It must be random though. You will NEVER get rid of all random knock (considering some of it is clutch noise, road noise, etc..)
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jookies
As long as you aren't getting CONSISTENT knock at any one RPM ( always getting knock at 5000rpm) 1-2 counts is fine. It must be random though. You will NEVER get rid of all random knock (considering some of it is clutch noise, road noise, etc..)
^this. couldnt have said it any better myself
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Rands
i haven't updated my AP or logged my car in a while. They used to have Knock Retard and Learned Knock Regard as a loggable/viewable setting. I guess now it's just changed to knock sum?
if you update you accessport they did change it to knock sum and 1 knock sum is .35 of a degree its alot easier to log and read

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