Un-tuned with cams and fuel pump
Un-tuned with cams and fuel pump
Well went to the track on sunday and am just posting the results now. It was my 2nd time to the track EVER and first time since cams. The track was Great Lakes Dragaway in Union Grove Wisconsin. The temp was around 50 and low humidity. Anyway my mods include Buschur Racing's Stage 2 along with Ebay O2 housing, Horsepowerfreaks LICP, GSC 272/264, and Walbro Fuel pump. The car had a mail in flash for just the stage 2 but not the other mods. I was peaking 22.5 and holding about 20.5 by the end of 4th gear. Launched from the 5800 rev limiter, I was having a little bit of a 2-3 shift problem but NLTS the 3-4. I will be getting a custom AMS tune next tuesday and Exedy HD twin ceramitalic in december. Do you think I am capable of 11's on pump?
Best run:
r/t .436
60' 1.750
330 5.158
1/8 7.978
mph 87.65
1000 10.377
1/4 12.38
mph 113.06
Best run:
r/t .436
60' 1.750
330 5.158
1/8 7.978
mph 87.65
1000 10.377
1/4 12.38
mph 113.06
I would say you will run under 12.20 for sure. And you can still knock down that 60' time with practice. It is not easy though. I would have to say good job for your 2nd time EVER at a track. Good work
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Doubtful on pump unless you gain a lot of power with the retune, which is not likely.
with a retune and a better 60 ft you should hit 11's.
Hell with a 1.6 60 foot you would be knocking on the door of 11's as it sits. Every .10 gained in the 60 foot is good for .2 up top.
Eric
Hell with a 1.6 60 foot you would be knocking on the door of 11's as it sits. Every .10 gained in the 60 foot is good for .2 up top.
Eric
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Originally Posted by Silk
I should get a decent amount of power out of the tune. Also this run was with a passenger in the car and a full dual 12" sub set up in the trunk. With the subs and passenger out, not to mention the tune and clutch, I should be able to get at least another 2mph out of the trap. People have run high 11's with 115 traps 

If you do indeed gain 20whp from the retune (not normal), then I think you will be able to hit 11s on pump gas.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
No need to roll your eyes. I agree that 115mph traps are easy 11s. In fact, it takes poor driving to NOT hit 11s with 115 traps, and your driving does not look poor. You also didn't say anything abouthaving a passenger and extra weight - not sure why you'd do that if you were trying to get good times at the track - it makes no sense. I can't guess that you had a passenger and extra weight - you have to mention it. What I said was that I don't think a retune will gain that much extra power, and the clutch certainly won't add to your trap speed. Generally, if you cut a better 60', your trap speed will go down slightly.
If you do indeed gain 20whp from the retune (not normal), then I think you will be able to hit 11s on pump gas.
If you do indeed gain 20whp from the retune (not normal), then I think you will be able to hit 11s on pump gas.
Hell, if I cant break into 11's on pump, it should be EASILY achievable on some race gas and the boost cranked up
Last edited by Silk; Nov 15, 2006 at 04:36 PM.
The fuel pump can't make it run pig rich itself - just a little bit more rich than before. A tune from stock will show 20whp, but rarely do you see that much gain going from one tune to the next even with a change in mods. It may happen, but I just err on the side of caution when it comes to power gains. People almost always set their expectations too high. The clutch should help the 60' a little, but not the shifting.
Yes, easily on race gas - no question.
Yes, easily on race gas - no question.
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
The fuel pump can't make it run pig rich itself - just a little bit more rich than before. A tune from stock will show 20whp, but rarely do you see that much gain going from one tune to the next even with a change in mods. It may happen, but I just err on the side of caution when it comes to power gains. People almost always set their expectations too high. The clutch should help the 60' a little, but not the shifting.
Yes, easily on race gas - no question.
Yes, easily on race gas - no question.
I don't know - that depends on you. I didn't have any problem shifting fast with my stock clutch, but I do think I got a little faster with my Exedy 4-puck. My gains were related to the nastiness with which I shift, but not everyone drives like that, which is why I said it depends on you.
Those are some nice times, but how in the heck were you able to run those times with a passenger in your car? Every dragstrip I've been to will not allow a passenger if you run 13.99 or quicker.


