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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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No, your boost does not hit 22.8psi then hold "damn near to redline." Noobs need to stop claiming that - it's an epidemic that misleads other noobs. If you were to log your boost with a MAP sensor, you'd see it drop to 17-18psi by 7k every time. Just ask Al if you must - he has countless MAP sensor logs showing it and has posted many of them in his forum. It's just how our turbos work...
Gauge reads 1.55 peak in 4th gear pull or 5th, and stays @ 1.5 till 7000 rpm.
That's with just a reflash and restrictor pill removed.

Didn't have a chance to log the boost. That'll be soon when I get the cable.
Anyway, I was just going by my gauge. It doesn't fall below 1.5 to redline.
Now, I don't know if this is anyway accurate. I like the way you quoted me by the way... Sounds like Jeff Foxworthy... MPH for 12.65 was 109.1 and the 12.31 was 113.8. 0 - 60 is anywhere from 3.97 ~ 4.20 depending on the launch.
Interesting how vishnu posts the same results for just their reflash. I think it's a 4.0 @ 12.4 ?

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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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Yes, everyone who makes this mistake goes by their gauge until they find out the truth. It's a terribly common mistake. It's also a mistake to think you actually are able to watch your boost gauge from 3500-7000rpm in 4th gear...

Not sure where you're getting the 0-60 times - we don't have a way to measure that (g-meter doesn't count), nor does that one website that estimates based on ET and MPH, but it's fun to play with.

PS. What cable are you referring to when logging boost? There isn't a cable I know of - you use a MAP sensor.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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Yes, everyone who makes this mistake goes by their gauge until they find out the truth. It's a terribly common mistake. It's also a mistake to think you actually are able to watch your boost gauge from 3500-7000rpm in 4th gear...

Not sure where you're getting the 0-60 times - we don't have a way to measure that (g-meter doesn't count), nor does that one website that estimates based on ET and MPH, but it's fun to play with.

PS. What cable are you referring to when logging boost? There isn't a cable I know of - you use a MAP sensor.
You can't log this with ECUflash, Zeitronix 3.5 MS and the Tactrix interface cable for your obdII to laptop ? I thought ECUFlash had datalogging capabilities that extract info from the map sensor ...
Using a g-tech pro RR at the track as well on the back roads ( i wish the track did give you a 0 - 60, although you can get an estimate from your 1/8th mile time & mph which is somewhat accurate). Then again, i never used ECUflash.
We have long smooth fresh paved roads that are around 2 ~ 3 miles in undeveloped areas. Perfect for testing. People also go out there and drag race all the time. Until they start building houses, it's perfect for test & tuning your car. The newer g-tech pro series are very accurate when calibrated. Used them on several cars and had great results. Even made sure my speedometer was correct using a GPS, but that doesn't matter with the device anyway.

not 3500 rpm to 7000 rpm, more like 4800 rpm to 7000 rpm

anyway here > https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=241093

you can log the Boost during a run... Are talking about the samething here ?

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Damn, can't pull boost data from the OBDII If I could swap to the JDM MAP sensor, then I could log the MAP from the OBD2 port... darn

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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Nighshifter, timeslips?

SRT-4 Turbo 7- To answer your question and stay totally on topic with conjecture limited only to your times, mid 12's. You didnt post in your thread which IX you are driving but assuming its a GSR with good drving mid to high 12's.

RS's are lighter and slightly more aero which helps them mph better (means more time gained on the big end) and MR's are low geared, nearly as heavy as GSR and also have that zerolift package helping to produce more downforce.

The best piece of advice I can give is, dont worry what you'll run...worry about what you ran.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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Nighshifter, timeslips?

SRT-4 Turbo 7- To answer your question and stay totally on topic with conjecture limited only to your times, mid 12's. You didnt post in your thread which IX you are driving but assuming its a GSR with good drving mid to high 12's.

RS's are lighter and slightly more aero which helps them mph better (means more time gained on the big end) and MR's are low geared, nearly as heavy as GSR and also have that zerolift package helping to produce more downforce.

The best piece of advice I can give is, dont worry what you'll run...worry about what you ran.

You can look me up for my best stock which is a 12.87 done here in bradenton, florida. I'll have to get another one in here but right now i have major christmas shopping to do. It's always last minute with me! Yes, i believe the RS is the fastest out of all the 3 because of what you mentioned. I mentioned before that me and my buddy with his EVO went to the weigh station and the cars were 188 lbs difference! I don't even have a radio or power locks! nothing! totally stripped! Now that sure is different then what is posted in the curb weights of the cars....
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Nighshifter, timeslips?

SRT-4 Turbo 7- To answer your question and stay totally on topic with conjecture limited only to your times, mid 12's. You didnt post in your thread which IX you are driving but assuming its a GSR with good drving mid to high 12's.

RS's are lighter and slightly more aero which helps them mph better (means more time gained on the big end) and MR's are low geared, nearly as heavy as GSR and also have that zerolift package helping to produce more downforce.

The best piece of advice I can give is, dont worry what you'll run...worry about what you ran.

Thanks I wasn't so concerned with the ET's, I was more concerned with the MPH. MPH to me shows a cars true power, the driver mod gets the ET. And from people on here they are showing an average of 109-110mph with just a reflash.

BTW I drive a refular 9, Not an RS, MR, or SE.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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109-110 with just a reflash doesnt seem so typical but maybe I havent really paid attention. Bonestock IX GSR (full weight) that I ran with this summer was running very consistent 104.9-105.2 mph with 13.3 e.t.'s. 25whp or so from a flash only would put you in the 107-108's at full weight with wing.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
109-110 with just a reflash doesnt seem so typical but maybe I havent really paid attention. Bonestock IX GSR (full weight) that I ran with this summer was running very consistent 104.9-105.2 mph with 13.3 e.t.'s. 25whp or so from a flash only would put you in the 107-108's at full weight with wing.

107-108 is still good with me. Nice, reliable 12 sec car
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Yes, everyone who makes this mistake goes by their gauge until they find out the truth. It's a terribly common mistake. It's also a mistake to think you actually are able to watch your boost gauge from 3500-7000rpm in 4th gear...

Not sure where you're getting the 0-60 times - we don't have a way to measure that (g-meter doesn't count), nor does that one website that estimates based on ET and MPH, but it's fun to play with.

PS. What cable are you referring to when logging boost? There isn't a cable I know of - you use a MAP sensor.
Warr, I saw a time slip posted on here somewhere that had a 0-60 time??? I thought it to be very wierd.
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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109-110 with just a reflash doesnt seem so typical but maybe I havent really paid attention. Bonestock IX GSR (full weight) that I ran with this summer was running very consistent 104.9-105.2 mph with 13.3 e.t.'s. 25whp or so from a flash only would put you in the 107-108's at full weight with wing.
The IX is 300 WHP with flash!
That's been proven! Even Vishu takes the car from 286 to 380 HP with just a flash. 400 HP with a flash and tbe! Where did you get that info. Better go on the Dynoflash forum and checkout the stats on Al's dyno runs with just his 199.00 flash!
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Old Dec 22, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Srt-4 Turbo 7
107-108 is still good with me. Nice, reliable 12 sec car

Just get a good TBE, drop-in, and dynoflash for the mods.. with good driving skills you'll be in the 11.9s! 12's isn't good enough anymore for me, too many vettes with just exhaust running mid 12's easy! And now with the GT500 running 12.20s with a great driver, too close for comfort! And if your car is pulling 11's, then you'll be faster on a roll then a mid 12's car ! I would feel good with 11.5s... I'm working on it!

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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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Warr, I saw a time slip posted on here somewhere that had a 0-60 time??? I thought it to be very wierd.
It was probably just the 60'.
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Old Dec 23, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NightShifter
The IX is 300 WHP with flash!
That's been proven! Even Vishu takes the car from 286 to 380 HP with just a flash. 400 HP with a flash and tbe! Where did you get that info. Better go on the Dynoflash forum and checkout the stats on Al's dyno runs with just his 199.00 flash!
Huh? Did you not read what I posted? Stock as in bone absolutely stock IX ran 105mph (GSR not RS) that dyno'd a corrected 261whp and 286whp uncorrected earlier the same year. It was a deal on dyno time so he decided to see what a stock IX would do and thats what it did. To run a 109-110 trap on an otherwise stock car would be an additional 40 to 50whp on top of that. I have seen an otherwise stock MR (other than flash) run 13.21@107.6.

So realistically no one has told me anything, this is what I observed the people I know do while racing. I then used that information to help answer this gents question.

I am not going to badmouth anyone's flashes or tuning, but I dont care about claims. I only believe what I see or those that I trust have seen and repeat to me. Just because a tuner claims that he found 94hp in a flash doesnt convince me he did. I tune my own car, and the ones that I mentioned. I can tell you what gains are to be found on an otherwise stock evo. I can in fact tell you what I did with a TBE, filter and flash as well...
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Huh? Did you not read what I posted? Stock as in bone absolutely stock IX ran 105mph (GSR not RS) that dyno'd a corrected 261whp and 286whp uncorrected earlier the same year. It was a deal on dyno time so he decided to see what a stock IX would do and thats what it did. To run a 109-110 trap on an otherwise stock car would be an additional 40 to 50whp on top of that. I have seen an otherwise stock MR (other than flash) run 13.21@107.6.

So realistically no one has told me anything, this is what I observed the people I know do while racing. I then used that information to help answer this gents question.

I am not going to badmouth anyone's flashes or tuning, but I dont care about claims. I only believe what I see or those that I trust have seen and repeat to me. Just because a tuner claims that he found 94hp in a flash doesnt convince me he did. I tune my own car, and the ones that I mentioned. I can tell you what gains are to be found on an otherwise stock evo. I can in fact tell you what I did with a TBE, filter and flash as well...
You guys are forgetting two essential key ingredients. Density Altitude. Your 105mph trap could have been 107-108 at another track or with better air. And vica versa.

And all cars are not made equal. My 04 SRT-4 bone stock ran a best of 14.18x@98.xx 2.19 60' D/A was around 2000. I weighed 165lbs then. Then afew cars later I went back with my 3rd SRT-4 bone stock again. I ran a 14.02@103.67
2.28 60' Track prep sucked. D/A was around 700. That was with 3/4 a tank of fuel and full weight with extra crap in the car. Plus I now weigh 240lbs

Even after correcting them for D/A the 3rd SRT is faster. All cars are not equal. That same day a friend of mine in his SRT-4 went 13.5@108 with just a wastegate and intake. So just a wastegate.

EDIT: I have had 3 SRT-4s. The Second one was a POS. Sold it. Went through a T/A and a brand new mustang GT and now back at an 05 white.
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