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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Evo 9 with a flash what should you expect?

I searched, but could not find exactly what I wanted. When the car is broken in I was thinking of heading to turbotrix for a reflash.

Now if I can drive the car what should a properly driven, properly tuned EVO 9 with a reflash run at the track. Just trying to get an estimate for next season. I run at Englishtown. Sorry for bench racing. I am hoping for high 12's at 105-106mph. But then again some of my searches have revealed some guys trapping 106-107mph with stock EVO 9's and that seemed high to me.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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You didn't mention any mods you would have .
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nad1370
You didn't mention any mods you would have .
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In my title it says Evo 9 with a reflash. Only mod would be a reflash from turbotrix in NJ. Turbotrix told me a reflash on a bone stock 9 could net me 20-25whp.

"properly tuned EVO 9 with a reflash run at the track"
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Alot can play apart in that Alltitude, driver, weather, etc...
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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No bench racing here, sorry.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kreionic
Alot can play apart in that Alltitude, driver, weather, etc...
Undersood completely. Just trying to get an average of what the car can do.

Warrtalon sorry man, mainly looking for an average mph. From the searches I have gathered 105-107mph.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Those would be stock IX traps, but every car is different, which is why it is senseless to bench race. If you didn't hit the track before the flash, then you won't have a reference point, and you won't really know much about your car or the tune.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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I am definitely going to hit the track before a flash. I would like to see what $500 netted me. But I did do some more searching and Warrtalon you have already answered my question. I just had to search harder.

"Drag racing forum...

Several IXs have done 12.9s and one has done 12.8 (that's just on this forum). However, only the extremely rare and exceptional 03 ran a 12.9 while most did 13.3-13.4 with good driving. Some of the IXs who hit 12.9s stock did so with only so-so driving and weak 60's. The trap speeds are usually 101-103 on an 03/04 and 105-107 on an 06. This, of course, all depends on many factors, but I'm referring to many examples and trying to ignore the outliers/poor driving. Even the 05s were consistently faster on average in stock form than the 03/04s. My stock best (first try) was 13.1@104 on a weak 1.92 60' while fighting the 5k limiter."

"There is no hype.

1) Several IXs have run 12.9s with mediocre driving (weak 60's). One at least has done a 12.8. Go search LONGER and HARDER instead of just looking at a few whose IXs weren't as strong as others, or who just were in bad conditions.

2) Many, MANY have dyno'd higher on MANY, MANY dynos. Not sure what you mean by "no real frame of reference." 05s see 240-250whp on most Dynojets then IXs see 260-270whp on the same Dynojet - how hard is that to understand?

3) Magazines are getting higher MPH, but they don't get good ETs, because they don't know how to launch with the 5k limiter. That is why they are listed at 13.3s instead of 12.9 like they should be.

4) You can't go by seat of the pants. Most people can't tell a difference in stock form, and the smoother it is, the less powerful it feels. When I first got my mail-in Dynoflash, my car didn't feel any faster than it did with my own SAFC tuning, but I immediately went out and ran 12.26@110 on my first try after only doing a best of 12.52@108.5 on my own tuning. The car felt smoother, but not faster. Luckily, I rely on empirical evidence rather than my butt dyno."

Just for clarification was that 12.26 @110mph with just a dynoflash? If so god damn that's a great time, props to you sir.

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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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Just a Dynoflash? No way, it was on an 05 VIII, not a IX, and it was with the stg1 mods in my sig (tbe, mbc, bov, fuel pump, base flash). Still very good, but not anything you can't do in a IX with just a flash - bastards!

PS. You shouldn't be paying $500 for a tune, imo.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Just a Dynoflash? No way, it was on an 05 VIII, not a IX, and it was with the stg1 mods in my sig (tbe, mbc, bov, fuel pump, base flash). Still very good, but not anything you can't do in a IX with just a flash - bastards!

PS. You shouldn't be paying $500 for a tune, imo.

I definitely have to do my research as far as tunes and prcing goes. I have not even begun to search that yet, but that is what turbotrix quoted me for my first tune. Every tune after that is cheaper. What sucks is that It will be hard for me to have this car down for 2-3 days. So mailing in the ECU will be difficult, while just going to turbotrix on a Friday and having the car back that very day will be a lot more convenient.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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I wasn't suggesting a mail-in anyway - a custom tune is best - but you can also get e-flashes (base flash through email) for $50 without any downtime. You can get a Dynoflash custom tune for no more than $400, but he's up in Connecticut.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
I wasn't suggesting a mail-in anyway - a custom tune is best - but you can also get e-flashes (base flash through email) for $50 without any downtime. You can get a Dynoflash custom tune for no more than $400, but he's up in Connecticut.

Thanks, Connecticut is not too bad of a drive. It took me 2.5 hours to get to Quinnipiac University, so it's a good option to consider. Thanks for the tips
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Okay, just a reflash from Al @ Dynoflash took nearly 1 second off my car in the quarter. I was doing 13.20s (just with a regular type launch, not a 1.6x' time and speedy gonzalez shifting.. ) My record stock was 12.87.. but that's not an average. I wouldn't bet on that number, that was just my best and it happens maybe 1 outta 20 times. Same launch I did 12.65, 1.6x' launch i did 12.31.
That's just a flash alone, nothing else! Al told me his flash would produce near 300 AWHP (which was hard to believe) but i'm a believer now. You don't need an MBC (with the IX anyway) unless you're going to run race gas. The ECU will hit 22.8 PSI and damn near hold that till redline! Al does great work! I just put on a downpipe 70MM and going to put the rest of the TBE on, get an intake and reflash again. Should be in the 11.90s like some similar EVO IX's had done with same mods. Put it this way, pulled on a 2004 Z06 vette from 30 mph roll (dig he was dead in a second). He didn't even want to race from a dig again after i totally destroyed him. He ran 12.7 stock! Guy told me my car was a rocket! Couldn't believe it because he didn't hear any mods (exhaust, intake.. nothing). Most important mod is the driver mod
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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Nightshifter what was your mph with JUST the REFLASH done?

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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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No, your boost does not hit 22.8psi then hold "damn near to redline." Noobs need to stop claiming that - it's an epidemic that misleads other noobs. If you were to log your boost with a MAP sensor, you'd see it drop to 17-18psi by 7k every time. Just ask Al if you must - he has countless MAP sensor logs showing it and has posted many of them in his forum. It's just how our turbos work...
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