Confusing 0-60 and 0-62 mph - EVO IX
Confusing 0-60 and 0-62 mph - EVO IX
I know that 0-60 mph is not a too important number in real life driving, but anyways.
European magazines usually get only 5,7...6,1 sec 0-100km/h (0-62 mph) from EVO IX, but on the internet I have found lots of 0-60 mph test times starting from 4,4...4,7 sec. Factory spec for 0-100 km/h is also 5,7 sec.
Usually the difference between 0-60 mph and 0-100 km/h times for the same car is 0,3...0,4 sec, but where is the ONE second lost in this case. Could it be, that European testers have to change to the 3-d gear (6-speed manual), to get to 100km/h (62 mph) and then the little lag after the gearchange, but 0-60 mph is done in 1-2gears as usual? European Evo IX / US spec IX MR are approx. identical in power: 280/286 hp and 295/289 lbft... so where is the difference? Or don't the Europeans just know, how to launch a AWD car... lol. Or is it the 5500-rpm launch rev limiter that is usually bypassed in US.
For example one Russian test of STI (2006) and EVO IX GSR:
STI km/h - seconds:
0-80 - 3,9
0-100 - 5,0
0-120 - 8,3
0-140 - 10,9
EVO IX km/h - seconds:
0-80 - 4,0
0-100 - 5,7
0-120 - 7,5
0-140 - 10,1
0-80 probably so... logical
0-100 doesn't make sence (could it be STI in 2-d gear and EVO in 3-d gear?) Acctually the scan is very poor... STI could be 5,8 sec, then it ofcourse makes sence...
0-120 again logical.. EVO being little faster (both probably in 3-d gear)
0-140 EVO is faster in this test getting top speed of 245 km/h against sti-s 235 km/h
The Russian test: http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&cd=10
European magazines usually get only 5,7...6,1 sec 0-100km/h (0-62 mph) from EVO IX, but on the internet I have found lots of 0-60 mph test times starting from 4,4...4,7 sec. Factory spec for 0-100 km/h is also 5,7 sec.
Usually the difference between 0-60 mph and 0-100 km/h times for the same car is 0,3...0,4 sec, but where is the ONE second lost in this case. Could it be, that European testers have to change to the 3-d gear (6-speed manual), to get to 100km/h (62 mph) and then the little lag after the gearchange, but 0-60 mph is done in 1-2gears as usual? European Evo IX / US spec IX MR are approx. identical in power: 280/286 hp and 295/289 lbft... so where is the difference? Or don't the Europeans just know, how to launch a AWD car... lol. Or is it the 5500-rpm launch rev limiter that is usually bypassed in US.
For example one Russian test of STI (2006) and EVO IX GSR:
STI km/h - seconds:
0-80 - 3,9
0-100 - 5,0
0-120 - 8,3
0-140 - 10,9
EVO IX km/h - seconds:
0-80 - 4,0
0-100 - 5,7
0-120 - 7,5
0-140 - 10,1
0-80 probably so... logical
0-100 doesn't make sence (could it be STI in 2-d gear and EVO in 3-d gear?) Acctually the scan is very poor... STI could be 5,8 sec, then it ofcourse makes sence...
0-120 again logical.. EVO being little faster (both probably in 3-d gear)
0-140 EVO is faster in this test getting top speed of 245 km/h against sti-s 235 km/h
The Russian test: http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&cd=10
Most of us on these forums don't really pay much attention 0-60, we usually care more about 1/4 mile times. Most EVO IXs when driven correctly are able to hit low 13s, and sometimes (rare) high 12s. Usually low 13 second 1/4 mile times are accompanied by 0-60 times of less than 5 seconds.
OK.. I know/understand all this.
What I was actually wondering about is the max speed of the 2-d gear of the 6-speed gearbox... could it be little less than 62mph?
Does anybody have a chart of some kind of the gearboxes speeds?
Thanks!
What I was actually wondering about is the max speed of the 2-d gear of the 6-speed gearbox... could it be little less than 62mph?
Does anybody have a chart of some kind of the gearboxes speeds?
Thanks!
Last edited by ajutine; Feb 9, 2007 at 01:09 AM.
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Found an answer in one of the threads here:
'GSR RS: (stock final) 4.529 (after) -> 4.111
RS : (stock final) 4.875 (after) -> 4.111
Vehicle speed was calculated with 235-45-17 size tires at 7000rpm
Final 1st gear 2nd gear 3rd gear 4th gear 5 speeds
Genuine: 66.3 94.6 131.2 179.0 242.5 (km/h)
Kansai: 73.0 104.3 144.5 197.2 267.2 (km/h)
So you can hit 60mph in 2nd gear but not 100km/h and thats why theres approx 1 sec difference...
'GSR RS: (stock final) 4.529 (after) -> 4.111
RS : (stock final) 4.875 (after) -> 4.111
Vehicle speed was calculated with 235-45-17 size tires at 7000rpm
Final 1st gear 2nd gear 3rd gear 4th gear 5 speeds
Genuine: 66.3 94.6 131.2 179.0 242.5 (km/h)
Kansai: 73.0 104.3 144.5 197.2 267.2 (km/h)
So you can hit 60mph in 2nd gear but not 100km/h and thats why theres approx 1 sec difference...
Some mags don't redline cars if they feel it won't help the acceleration. I remember seeing an article with the evo and sti...and they shifted the evo at like 6000rpms. It trailed the sti and i was curious until i looked a little closer.100km is roughly 60mph so your last sentence isn't clear to me. If you want better 0-60 then hold the gear to around redline instead of shifting(.3at minimum) and waiting for the turbo to come on again.
[QUOTE=mrdevo;3955807]100km is roughly 60mph so your last sentence isn't clear to me. QUOTE]
100km/h = 62 mph
My guess is 2d gear hits the limiter exactly somwhere between 60...62 mph... but does this really make you loose whole 1 second or is there something else with those time differences?
100km/h = 62 mph
My guess is 2d gear hits the limiter exactly somwhere between 60...62 mph... but does this really make you loose whole 1 second or is there something else with those time differences?
Last edited by ajutine; Feb 9, 2007 at 07:31 AM.
The limiter is 7606 i believe or close to that. You should be able to squeeze a few miles per hr from 7000rpms to there. Problem is, you aren't making any good power there. But if you wanted the best 0-60, i would hold the gear longer despite the power loss since the best shifters in the world can do it in .3 seconds...then you have to add the turbo going back on boil.
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