A vid of my evo 3 running a 9.71@148 on radials
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Thanks for the comments everyone,
On the radial debate, I have also run a 9.92@148 on a set of 235/35/18 inch Bfgoodrich profiler tyres which are a 100% road tyre
and a 10.12@147 on a set of 235/45/17 nankang cheapies.
On the radial debate, I have also run a 9.92@148 on a set of 235/35/18 inch Bfgoodrich profiler tyres which are a 100% road tyre
and a 10.12@147 on a set of 235/45/17 nankang cheapies.
I swear some of you people perplex me with your empty arguments. 
He said he ran on radial tires. Drag radials are radial tires! Perfectly legal to be driven on the street and highway.
100 unleaded octane is PUMP gas in many parts of this country. Yes, you go to a gas station and pump it in your car. Just because YOU don't get it doesn't mean it's not. So since people in Cali only get 91 octane, does that mean that we guys who run 93 or 94 are not really running "pump gas?"
Good job Rob!
He said he ran on radial tires. Drag radials are radial tires! Perfectly legal to be driven on the street and highway.100 unleaded octane is PUMP gas in many parts of this country. Yes, you go to a gas station and pump it in your car. Just because YOU don't get it doesn't mean it's not. So since people in Cali only get 91 octane, does that mean that we guys who run 93 or 94 are not really running "pump gas?"
Good job Rob!
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Definately NOT an empty arguement. Some drag radials are nothing but slicks with grooves in them. Street radials in short are very slippery comparred to ALL drag radials. Radials and drag radials are not same catagory of tires. By your definition it is okay to say you are using radials when you are actually using slicks. (because some drag radials are slicks with grooves)
Come on...
A radial tire has everything to do with the construction of the tire. It has nothing to do with the number of grooves or "stickiness" of said tire. There are some 'true' street radials that are stickier than drag radials. You can put grooves on bias ply slick tires too, eg HQTPs.
Bottom line, his drag radial tires are radial tires. Dance around it all you want. He never said they were 'true' street radials. Also, there's a big difference between a "DOT" DR marked just for performance and legality in a street racing class (Hoosier) and a drag radial that is actually street legal eg BFG and Nittos for driving on the highway. His radial tires are street legal here in the U.S.
It's common knowledge that when one talks about running on "radials" DRs are included in there too. You have to be specific and ask whether they are "true" or DR. However, you cannot say that DRs are not radial tires, since they are.
Most slicks are of bias ply construction, hence not radial tires. If the tire is of radial construction however, it is a radial tire even if it looks like a "slick."
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The BFG and M/T drag radials are street legal here in Australia too, so you can drive them on the road here too.The only thing not (streetable) about my car is the welded in cage, chute, and no cat(C16)But I have run a 10.08@139 on 98 octane pump fuel.
Come on...
A radial tire has everything to do with the construction of the tire. It has nothing to do with the number of grooves or "stickiness" of said tire. There are some 'true' street radials that are stickier than drag radials. You can put grooves on bias ply slick tires too, eg HQTPs.
Bottom line, his drag radial tires are radial tires. Dance around it all you want. He never said they were 'true' street radials. Also, there's a big difference between a "DOT" DR marked just for performance and legality in a street racing class (Hoosier) and a drag radial that is actually street legal eg BFG and Nittos for driving on the highway. His radial tires are street legal here in the U.S.
It's common knowledge that when one talks about running on "radials" DRs are included in there too. You have to be specific and ask whether they are "true" or DR. However, you cannot say that DRs are not radial tires, since they are.
Most slicks are of bias ply construction, hence not radial tires. If the tire is of radial construction however, it is a radial tire even if it looks like a "slick."
A radial tire has everything to do with the construction of the tire. It has nothing to do with the number of grooves or "stickiness" of said tire. There are some 'true' street radials that are stickier than drag radials. You can put grooves on bias ply slick tires too, eg HQTPs.
Bottom line, his drag radial tires are radial tires. Dance around it all you want. He never said they were 'true' street radials. Also, there's a big difference between a "DOT" DR marked just for performance and legality in a street racing class (Hoosier) and a drag radial that is actually street legal eg BFG and Nittos for driving on the highway. His radial tires are street legal here in the U.S.
It's common knowledge that when one talks about running on "radials" DRs are included in there too. You have to be specific and ask whether they are "true" or DR. However, you cannot say that DRs are not radial tires, since they are.
Most slicks are of bias ply construction, hence not radial tires. If the tire is of radial construction however, it is a radial tire even if it looks like a "slick."
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"drag radials" are designed to act like slicks. just because they are "radials" by definition does not make the same as true street radial tire. do you know anyone using a drag radial for autocross? of coarse not. the sidewalls absolutely suck for handling. and that is no surprise because they are made to flex and hook in a straight line. and the tread of drag radial wears out extremely fast when driving them on the street. I consistantly were out drag radials in 2500 miles or less. street radials last 15000-60000 miles. and you are going to tell me drag radials and radials are same ? give it a rest.
Jesus, next time I put up a post about my car I will headline it like this"A vid of my car running a 9.716@148.86 on BFGoodrich drag radial tyres 235/60/15 with 28 psi tyre pressure and a ****ty 1.72 60" smashing the rev limiter waaaay before the finish line, using c16 no n20 and running a garrett gt35/40 with a 66mm front wheel and a 1.06 rear and 28 psi boost "
Jesus, next time I put up a post about my car I will headline it like this"A vid of my car running a 9.716@148.86 on BFGoodrich drag radial tyres 235/60/15 with 28 psi tyre pressure and a ****ty 1.72 60" smashing the rev limiter waaaay before the finish line, using c16 no n20 and running a garrett gt35/40 with a 66mm front wheel and a 1.06 rear and 28 psi boost "
pssh. tires that hold traction are tires that hold traction. ya gotta keep par with the power else they will slip. a Camry isn't gonna rock slicks.
"drag radials" are designed to act like slicks. just because they are "radials" by definition does not make the same as true street radial tire. do you know anyone using a drag radial for autocross? of coarse not. the sidewalls absolutely suck for handling. and that is no surprise because they are made to flex and hook in a straight line. and the tread of drag radial wears out extremely fast when driving them on the street. I consistantly were out drag radials in 2500 miles or less. street radials last 15000-60000 miles. and you are going to tell me drag radials and radials are same ? give it a rest.
A vid of my evo 3 running a 9.71@148 on radials
holy **** thats fast! imagine what it would do on drag radials! better yet imagine what she would run on slicks! congradulations man, you got an awesome car!
holy **** thats fast! imagine what it would do on drag radials! better yet imagine what she would run on slicks! congradulations man, you got an awesome car!
I swear some of you people perplex me with your empty arguments. He said he ran on radial tires. Drag radials are radial tires! Perfectly legal to be driven on the street and highway.
100 unleaded octane is PUMP gas in many parts of this country. Yes, you go to a gas station and pump it in your car. Just because YOU don't get it doesn't mean it's not. So since people in Cali only get 91 octane, does that mean that we guys who run 93 or 94 are not really running "pump gas?"
Good job Rob!
He said he ran on radial tires. Drag radials are radial tires! Perfectly legal to be driven on the street and highway.100 unleaded octane is PUMP gas in many parts of this country. Yes, you go to a gas station and pump it in your car. Just because YOU don't get it doesn't mean it's not. So since people in Cali only get 91 octane, does that mean that we guys who run 93 or 94 are not really running "pump gas?"
Good job Rob!
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You posted this....
Thats why I asked. There are three catagories of tires. Radials, drag radials, and slicks. Kinda like saying 100octane is pump gas. Great pass non the less!!
Nice pass. And if they are drag radials than you shouldnt say you are running just radials.
Had you said TRUE street radials in the first place, I wouldn't have said anything about it. Sorry, we do not follow your definition of what radial tires are. The manufacturers determine what a radial tire is and what is not since they are the ones who manufacture them. Again, true street radials and drag radials are both RADIAL tires.
do you know anyone using a drag radial for autocross? of coarse not. the sidewalls absolutely suck for handling. and that is no surprise because they are made to flex and hook in a straight line. and the tread of drag radial wears out extremely fast when driving them on the street.
I consistantly were out drag radials in 2500 miles or less. street radials last 15000-60000 miles. and you are going to tell me drag radials and radials are same ? give it a rest.
People also run on Nitto drags and BF Goodrich drags to more than 10,000 miles. That's more than what some EVO owners do on their stock Advans, a true street radial. Does that mean the Advans are not true street radials due to their short life? No. Yeah...you really convinced me there.
Stop confusing yourself. A drag radial is a type of a radial tire. A true street radial is also a type of a radial tire. No one said true street tires and drag radial tires are the same. Rob didn't say he was running on true street radials on this pass. All I am telling you is that they are in the same class since both are radial tires due to their construction. Basically, there was nothing wrong with his statement about running "on radials." It was your own perogative to inquire further whether they were "true" or "drag." You didn't, instead stated that drag radial tires were not radial tires - which is false. If you still cannot get it, I won't argue any further.
