Duby, you illustrate my point. It's not that his driving was that much better than yours. Its just that you really only have the power to trap 112, but he has the power to trap 114-115. His traps were artificially low at the end, and we suspect it's because the clutch was slipping when he nailed 4th on those last 3-4 runs.

12.2 @ 112 is good driving, too - just not great. You're close, though.

 

Unfortunately Calyton, many of us find you about the same. IF you could post without being a d_ck, you'd find you wouldn't get this kind of reaction.

 

Man I really hope so. I'm going to order a new clutch today and should be back to the track in a few weeks.

 

A slipping clutch pulling 1.6x 60' over and over again. Wow think what he will be pulling with a good clutch You dont need any excuses George those are great times and right on par with what they should be with a crappy 800-1500 DA You would know if your clutch was slipping, the stocker completely lets go when they do slip.

These cars do not get heat-soaked at the track. George and I have made at least 8 consecutive passes back to back (within 5 minutes of each run) many times and the evo just gets faster and faster with every run.

And believe it or not the left lane at sac reads low trap speeds. It has been this way for over 4 months now. George's car made those 114's in the right lane and the 111's in the left. Sacs right lane mph is pretty close with infineon(if anything infineon reads higher mph than sacs right lane). Its crazy the faster the car is at sac the bigger the speed difference from right to left lane. My buddies z06 will consistently do 119 in the left lane and 126's in the right lane, and this is on the same night. The first trap speed beam must be a little on the left lane. I urge anyone who runs at sac often to check this out with some of thier timeslips from the same night.

Oh yeah, NICE RUNS goerge Check out that consistency

 

Actually, no, the stocker can grab fine on a launch even when it's slipping at peak torque. Remember, there's a lot less load on a higher rpm launch than on a 4th or 5th gear pull at peak torque. I know personally, because the day my stock clutch went out was the day I hit 12.22 back when I had a cat-back. I got 12 runs that day, because it was an import bracket race, and I won. The downside was that as the rounds went later and later, my runs were closer and closer together, which is what I believe killed the clutch. However, even on my final and winning run, it was a 12.24, which was only .02 off my best ever at the time. As soon as I packed up and drove home on the highway, I noticed the clutch slipping.

Anyway, none of us know about that trap speed discrepancy at Sac, so maybe the clutch wasn't slipping, but I know you can hit 1.6-1.7 60's even when the stock clutch is on its way out.

 

I did post without being a "d_ck" as you say. He was a moron and jumped me for nothing, because he has poor reading comprehension, and when I corrected him, he flipped out on AIM. If "many of you" are truly this childish, then I feel sorry for you. I think any non-child can manage not to react like this regardless of what I say or don't say, wouldn't you agree? (I hope so)

 

**** off, youre useless

 

You also lack reading comprehension which is laughable since that is your complaint. Please reread my post. The message is very simple and I think you'll get it if you try again and maybe slow down.

 

What are you saying, "actually, no" to? "the stocker can grab fine on a launch even when its slipping"? Slipping and grabbing fine all at the same time??? This stuff is crazy and hard for me to understand. Warrtalon makes my head hurt

All I have to say Is Warrtalon FTW

And what was this whole story about? So your stock clutch went out on you on the way home from the track?

And are you saying that there is a lot less load on the clutch when your leaving the line at 6300rpms then when driving down the road in 4th or 5th and floor it?

So I guess if you did 100 roll ons from 50-100mph in 4th or 5th gear that would be harder on the clutch than 100 6300rpm clutch drops in 1st?

None of you knew, but now you know.

 

Basically yes, you see alot higher torque/load levels at a higher gear roll on. That is because your boost levels will be much higher. Take my car, when I am racing I see maybe 9-10psi on launch and just over 20psi through 1st and second. Now if I go out on the hiway and do a 4th gear pull from 2000rpm I see a max boost of 29psi. That is why you dyno in 4th gear as opposed to 1st.

 

Ive heard that you dyno in 4th because of the 1:1 ratio.

 

THis is what you just told me on another thread If you were hitting 1.67-1.71 60's, then the clutch was grabbing just fine...Now you're saying You can hit 1.6 60 fts when the clutch is on it's way out.

Make up your mind

 

It'll slip at higher gears because of the much HIGHER load, wind resistance alone adds to it, higher boost too don't forget.

 

good runs man.. for what ever reason your trap speeds were low im sure youll get that sorted..

 

Wrong thread, sorry!