11.6 is my new 12.0
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It's most likely the clutch switch, which is probably still engaged slightly when I get back on the gas. I shift extremely fast, and it's all one fluid motion, so the time that my clutch is in and out is very quick. I'm back in gear and going before my foot is all the way off the clutch pedal.
Actually, it causes even more problems when daily driving and heel-toeing. I can't stand that feature, because it messes things up in so many scenarios for me the way my car sits now.
Actually, it causes even more problems when daily driving and heel-toeing. I can't stand that feature, because it messes things up in so many scenarios for me the way my car sits now.
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I am not here to argue with you my friend. I have nothing but respect for you.
I could have sworn that I've seen the word Dyno Dynamics on dyno graphs from members of this board, and it was followed by the words Dynamometer or Dynapack. I may have been hallucinating though.
I wouldn't go so far though as to say a Dyno Dynamics Dynamometer reads as low as a dynojet though. I've seen a 20% difference in reading between a Mustang dyno vs. a dynapack and only a 8% difference in reading between a Dyno Dynamics Dynamometer vs. dynapack. Of course something could have been severely wrong with one or more of those dynos.
The bottom line, as you've stated many times, is what you actually run on the track. You have ran some very nice times, and I have nothing but respect for you!
I could have sworn that I've seen the word Dyno Dynamics on dyno graphs from members of this board, and it was followed by the words Dynamometer or Dynapack. I may have been hallucinating though.
I wouldn't go so far though as to say a Dyno Dynamics Dynamometer reads as low as a dynojet though. I've seen a 20% difference in reading between a Mustang dyno vs. a dynapack and only a 8% difference in reading between a Dyno Dynamics Dynamometer vs. dynapack. Of course something could have been severely wrong with one or more of those dynos.
The bottom line, as you've stated many times, is what you actually run on the track. You have ran some very nice times, and I have nothing but respect for you!
Look at all the results in the Vishnu forum. There are tons of examples there. All the dynosheets say "DynoDynamics" but nothing to do with the word "dynapack."
Locally, I put down 300whp uncorrected on a Dynojet, and then I put down 262whp uncorrected on this DynoDynamics. That's about a 14% difference raw. There is typically a 15% difference between DJs and DDs. You just haven't studied dyno results enough!

I think your MPH is freaking awesome for the elevation and whp you have. I look at Dyno Dynamics almost all the time, so you are doing well.
One place you need help is that 60'. I have never ran drag radials, but if I could pull 1.64s on freaking Advans in my VIII, you can pull 1.55s on those drag radials. Practice and bust out that elusive 11.499. You can do it!
It's most likely the clutch switch, which is probably still engaged slightly when I get back on the gas. I shift extremely fast, and it's all one fluid motion, so the time that my clutch is in and out is very quick. I'm back in gear and going before my foot is all the way off the clutch pedal.
Actually, it causes even more problems when daily driving and heel-toeing. I can't stand that feature, because it messes things up in so many scenarios for me the way my car sits now.
Actually, it causes even more problems when daily driving and heel-toeing. I can't stand that feature, because it messes things up in so many scenarios for me the way my car sits now.
is this your exact tyre Nitto NT555R, and what would be a good price for them?
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I won't be figuring it out any time soon, because as soon as I completely removed it, my times increased dramatically due to my shifting returning to its normal self. Here's an in-car vid of my NLTS without the patch:
http://bagelbitez.com/dcevoclub/Warrtalon/12.30.mpg
I wasn't able to do anything close to that with the NLTS mod active in the ECU. This is last week doing 11.69 with an out-of-car vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxEOG50ckMs
http://bagelbitez.com/dcevoclub/Warrtalon/12.30.mpg
I wasn't able to do anything close to that with the NLTS mod active in the ECU. This is last week doing 11.69 with an out-of-car vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxEOG50ckMs
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is this your exact tyre Nitto NT555R, and what would be a good price for them?
oh hell yeah, nice! for sure if you can ntls without needing the ignition cut then it amounts to the same thing since the object is to avoid having the throttle body slam shut and build boost back up in the next gear. some setups can't take that extra little bump in rpm between gears that occurs without the cut and you get locked out of the next gear. and there always is that little less stress on the drivetrain with the cut.
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oh hell yeah, nice! for sure if you can ntls without needing the ignition cut then it amounts to the same thing since the object is to avoid having the throttle body slam shut and build boost back up in the next gear. some setups can't take that extra little bump in rpm between gears that occurs without the cut and you get locked out of the next gear. and there always is that little less stress on the drivetrain with the cut.
i'm really killing this thread tonight. when you say you have to shift at 6500rpm is that because your torque has fallen off to the point where you are no longer accelerating at good rate, or due to calculations done with your gearing for optimal shift point? same effect in both cases but different causes. the reason i ask becuase it has always puzzled me with these guys wringing the green and other small turbos out to 8K in most gears but they still do awesome times.
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Good question - look at my dynograph and consider that I drop around 1500rpm after a shift. I keep myself right in the fattest part of the HP curve so that my avg HP in each gear is maximized. Notice I'm down almost 40whp by 7k rpm, which is where I shifted at sea level before moving here. The stock turbo loses a lot of efficiency, so the powerband moves left while losing spool at such high altitude:

(The numbers on the chart reflect a 1.13 CF)
I'm in 4th right after the 330' and just stay in 4th the whole way. I forgot that this would change with my 245/45s, so I didn't raise my shift point. I might do that now, since my gearing is made taller by the DRs and thus may move my powerband to the right a little. I don't have a dyno chart with the 245/45s - only 255/40s.

(The numbers on the chart reflect a 1.13 CF)
I'm in 4th right after the 330' and just stay in 4th the whole way. I forgot that this would change with my 245/45s, so I didn't raise my shift point. I might do that now, since my gearing is made taller by the DRs and thus may move my powerband to the right a little. I don't have a dyno chart with the 245/45s - only 255/40s.
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i'm really killing this thread tonight. when you say you have to shift at 6500rpm is that because your torque has fallen off to the point where you are no longer accelerating at good rate, or due to calculations done with your gearing for optimal shift point? same effect in both cases but different causes. the reason i ask becuase it has always puzzled me with these guys wringing the green and other small turbos out to 8K in most gears but they still do awesome times.


