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I have a white evo VIII and so far the only mods are HKS super mega flow intake, HKS Hi-power exhaust, HKS SSQV blow-off valve, autometer gagues, HKS EVC boost control, and an HKS turbo timer. As you can tell I going all HKS. What r some track times others have seen and any suggestions on launch.
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Track times vary widely depending on the driver and mods.
Anything from a 14.5 to 10.7.
(go thru the dragracing forum)
As far as launching, rev to 5,500 to 6,000 and slip the clutch.
That seems to be the most used method.
Anything from a 14.5 to 10.7.
(go thru the dragracing forum)
As far as launching, rev to 5,500 to 6,000 and slip the clutch.
That seems to be the most used method.
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Originally posted by evotomig
Track times vary widely depending on the driver and mods.
Anything from a 14.5 to 10.7.
(go thru the dragracing forum)
As far as launching, rev to 5,500 to 6,000 and slip the clutch.
That seems to be the most used method.
Track times vary widely depending on the driver and mods.
Anything from a 14.5 to 10.7.
(go thru the dragracing forum)
As far as launching, rev to 5,500 to 6,000 and slip the clutch.
That seems to be the most used method.
Now if I can just find some time to make it to the track with smogrunner since he wants to see what I can do in his car. This may be the first time a owner bests me at the 1320 since he has plenty of time with his car at the track.
Originally posted by Audi2ptzero
The last thing you ever want to do on a AWD/Turbo car is "slip" the clutch. This is something you do to control wheel spin and that is not a bad thing on a AWD car. You want to bounce the rpm and release the clutch in one solid motion while the rpms are on the way up to where you want to launch at. I was able to put down 1.81's with 225 whp on stock goodyear 205/60/15 all season tires launched at 6000 rpms.
Now if I can just find some time to make it to the track with smogrunner since he wants to see what I can do in his car. This may be the first time a owner bests me at the 1320 since he has plenty of time with his car at the track.
The last thing you ever want to do on a AWD/Turbo car is "slip" the clutch. This is something you do to control wheel spin and that is not a bad thing on a AWD car. You want to bounce the rpm and release the clutch in one solid motion while the rpms are on the way up to where you want to launch at. I was able to put down 1.81's with 225 whp on stock goodyear 205/60/15 all season tires launched at 6000 rpms.
Now if I can just find some time to make it to the track with smogrunner since he wants to see what I can do in his car. This may be the first time a owner bests me at the 1320 since he has plenty of time with his car at the track.
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Originally posted by Audi2ptzero
The last thing you ever want to do on a AWD/Turbo car is "slip" the clutch. This is something you do to control wheel spin and that is not a bad thing on a AWD car. You want to bounce the rpm and release the clutch in one solid motion while the rpms are on the way up to where you want to launch at. I was able to put down 1.81's with 225 whp on stock goodyear 205/60/15 all season tires launched at 6000 rpms.
Now if I can just find some time to make it to the track with smogrunner since he wants to see what I can do in his car. This may be the first time a owner bests me at the 1320 since he has plenty of time with his car at the track.
The last thing you ever want to do on a AWD/Turbo car is "slip" the clutch. This is something you do to control wheel spin and that is not a bad thing on a AWD car. You want to bounce the rpm and release the clutch in one solid motion while the rpms are on the way up to where you want to launch at. I was able to put down 1.81's with 225 whp on stock goodyear 205/60/15 all season tires launched at 6000 rpms.
Now if I can just find some time to make it to the track with smogrunner since he wants to see what I can do in his car. This may be the first time a owner bests me at the 1320 since he has plenty of time with his car at the track.
Better to let your clutch wear down a bit than shock your tranny.
My .01 cents.
(Watch out Smogrunner who you let race you car!!)
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Originally posted by Audi2ptzero
The last thing you ever want to do on a AWD/Turbo car is "slip" the clutch. This is something you do to control wheel spin and that is not a bad thing on a AWD car. You want to bounce the rpm and release the clutch in one solid motion while the rpms are on the way up to where you want to launch at. I was able to put down 1.81's with 225 whp on stock goodyear 205/60/15 all season tires launched at 6000 rpms.
Now if I can just find some time to make it to the track with smogrunner since he wants to see what I can do in his car. This may be the first time a owner bests me at the 1320 since he has plenty of time with his car at the track.
The last thing you ever want to do on a AWD/Turbo car is "slip" the clutch. This is something you do to control wheel spin and that is not a bad thing on a AWD car. You want to bounce the rpm and release the clutch in one solid motion while the rpms are on the way up to where you want to launch at. I was able to put down 1.81's with 225 whp on stock goodyear 205/60/15 all season tires launched at 6000 rpms.
Now if I can just find some time to make it to the track with smogrunner since he wants to see what I can do in his car. This may be the first time a owner bests me at the 1320 since he has plenty of time with his car at the track.
Better to let your clutch wear down a bit than shock your tranny.
My .01 cents.
(Watch out Smogrunner who you let race you car!!)
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I f you don't want to grenade the transfer case you want to do a fast slip. Do not sidestep your clutch it creates a huge amount of shock throughout the drivetrain. You will have to replace your stock clutch if you race enough, When you do check out the twin disk clutches available preferably with a carbon/carbon face, they are made to slip and hold up to the heat caused by this style of driving. I have heard nothing but praise for the Cusco unit. Just my .02
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I own and have drag raced my Audi A4 since oct 2000. This was every weekend, plus some week days with plenty of drag events from oct-2000 till april-2002.
First off I dont side step the clutch. I set the clutch at the friction point and then start my revs. This way the clutch does not bounce off the flywheel and just grabs it at one time. My 6k rpm clutchs were done on my first 2000 lbs kevlar/ceramic clutch setup while making 333-350 crank hp. I now run a 4000 lbs organic clutch with the setup I have now and am looking to produce 450-500+ hp on my A4.
Yes if you side step a performance clutch you can cause damage but that is why you should always set it as close as possible to the friction point since it wont cause a shock to the drive line. With an awd it is all about the traction at the tires not how you slip the clutch. I would rather spin the tires a little then snap the pressure plate or disk in half because it over heated from slipping.
First off I dont side step the clutch. I set the clutch at the friction point and then start my revs. This way the clutch does not bounce off the flywheel and just grabs it at one time. My 6k rpm clutchs were done on my first 2000 lbs kevlar/ceramic clutch setup while making 333-350 crank hp. I now run a 4000 lbs organic clutch with the setup I have now and am looking to produce 450-500+ hp on my A4.
Yes if you side step a performance clutch you can cause damage but that is why you should always set it as close as possible to the friction point since it wont cause a shock to the drive line. With an awd it is all about the traction at the tires not how you slip the clutch. I would rather spin the tires a little then snap the pressure plate or disk in half because it over heated from slipping.
Hey guys, Audi2ptzero is a good guy and I have been hearing about grenading transfer cases and clutches since I bought my evo. I have never slipped my clutch at the races. I just drop it and get my tires spinning. This approach may not yield the best 60ft times but I have managed a 1.79. I have 15,000 miles on my stock clutch. I have drag raced it around a dozen times and my clutch still feels fine. I personally believe the slip method will ruin a stock clutch faster than dropping it.
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True Smog the slip will destroy the stocker as i can attest. It will cause slipping all the way thru 1st and part of 2nd in a CM Stage3. However, with the twin carbon Cusco I manipulate the clutch out slip/engage gas approach. I can't explain and I don't practice launching as my 60 ft times prove that but if and when I get a 1.7 w/o grenading the transfer case I will be happy. 1.801 best to date on 7 drag runs but this approach with the twindisc seems less harsh than the stockclutch/CM Stage3 approaches I experimented with.BTW My 60 ft times are more affected by wheel spin from launching at to high of rpms.Method seems okay just need the best mod for my car as in the new driver mod. I will get better and put down a respectable time next time out. I better or I will be Viper/Cobra fodder.
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Originally posted by Smogrunner
Hey guys, Audi2ptzero is a good guy and I have been hearing about grenading transfer cases and clutches since I bought my evo. I have never slipped my clutch at the races. I just drop it and get my tires spinning. This approach may not yield the best 60ft times but I have managed a 1.79. I have 15,000 miles on my stock clutch. I have drag raced it around a dozen times and my clutch still feels fine. I personally believe the slip method will ruin a stock clutch faster than dropping it.
Hey guys, Audi2ptzero is a good guy and I have been hearing about grenading transfer cases and clutches since I bought my evo. I have never slipped my clutch at the races. I just drop it and get my tires spinning. This approach may not yield the best 60ft times but I have managed a 1.79. I have 15,000 miles on my stock clutch. I have drag raced it around a dozen times and my clutch still feels fine. I personally believe the slip method will ruin a stock clutch faster than dropping it.
Slipping the clutch will,no doubt, wear it down faster than dropping it; but I rather wear it down than CHANCE blowing the transfer case.
Anyway, who cares . Exedy Friday. Will slip itself.
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Originally posted by Audi2ptzero
The last thing you ever want to do on a AWD/Turbo car is "slip" the clutch. This is something you do to control wheel spin and that is not a bad thing on a AWD car. You want to bounce the rpm and release the clutch in one solid motion while the rpms are on the way up to where you want to launch at. I was able to put down 1.81's with 225 whp on stock goodyear 205/60/15 all season tires launched at 6000 rpms.
Now if I can just find some time to make it to the track with smogrunner since he wants to see what I can do in his car. This may be the first time a owner bests me at the 1320 since he has plenty of time with his car at the track.
The last thing you ever want to do on a AWD/Turbo car is "slip" the clutch. This is something you do to control wheel spin and that is not a bad thing on a AWD car. You want to bounce the rpm and release the clutch in one solid motion while the rpms are on the way up to where you want to launch at. I was able to put down 1.81's with 225 whp on stock goodyear 205/60/15 all season tires launched at 6000 rpms.
Now if I can just find some time to make it to the track with smogrunner since he wants to see what I can do in his car. This may be the first time a owner bests me at the 1320 since he has plenty of time with his car at the track.