Letting off gas
Letting off gas
OK I'm not the best driver in the world but I am trying to do my best. When ever Im pushing my car hard in corners and the tail gets a little loose I keep wanting to let off the gas completly, resulting my more oversteer than I need. How do you all remember to stay on it or how much to let off.
Last edited by OldschoolEVO; Jun 21, 2005 at 03:05 AM.
i know this isnt going to help you but you jsut need to go out into a big parking lot and rip your car i had the same problem. that is everyones first instinct to let off the gas. pretty much you just need to get more stick time.
Originally Posted by OldschoolEVO
OK I'm not the best driver in the world but I am trying to do my best. When ever Im pushing my car hard in corners and the tail gets a little loose I keep wanting to let off the gas completly, resulting my more oversteer than I need. How do you all remember to stay on it or how much to let off.

KeS
Rear wheel drive is different.
Come into the corners with less speed. You shouldn't be trying to drop speed mid-corner, that will for sure loosen up the back-end. Brake harder coming into the corners and then add speed. Then you can use throttle-lift to balance the car. Come in slow, and leave fast. That's the best way to learn.
Come into the corners with less speed. You shouldn't be trying to drop speed mid-corner, that will for sure loosen up the back-end. Brake harder coming into the corners and then add speed. Then you can use throttle-lift to balance the car. Come in slow, and leave fast. That's the best way to learn.
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You generally want to finish braking before you enter a turn unless you've mastered trail braking which is a technique used to induce slight oversteer if you're having too much understeer.
SO, you should finish braking before you even enter. Enter smoothly, but stay on the throttle, keeping a steady speed at middle corner, or apex, and once the apex ends and you start unwinding the wheel, accelerate smothly. It's really all about being smooth. But it basically sounds like you've been entering to fast and too late and turning in too hard...
Try going through a corner at a more mild controlled speed and pratice braking before the turn and keeping steady throttle through the turn, take the correct apex and smoothly get back on the throttle once you start unwinding the wheel...
a lot of beginner info here
http://home.pon.net/hunnicutt/perfdriv.htm
But if you're more advanced, and just having trouble and understand all of what I just said, here's ways to set up suspenions to control under/oversteer
http://rogerkrausracing.com/overundr.html
SO, you should finish braking before you even enter. Enter smoothly, but stay on the throttle, keeping a steady speed at middle corner, or apex, and once the apex ends and you start unwinding the wheel, accelerate smothly. It's really all about being smooth. But it basically sounds like you've been entering to fast and too late and turning in too hard...
Try going through a corner at a more mild controlled speed and pratice braking before the turn and keeping steady throttle through the turn, take the correct apex and smoothly get back on the throttle once you start unwinding the wheel...
a lot of beginner info here
http://home.pon.net/hunnicutt/perfdriv.htm
But if you're more advanced, and just having trouble and understand all of what I just said, here's ways to set up suspenions to control under/oversteer
http://rogerkrausracing.com/overundr.html
First.. know which type of oversteer you are dealing with..
lateral load oversteer.. (You drive in too fast/turn too sharp) and the back end steps out. This is actually when you roll into the throttle to "save" it.. the idea is to transfer weight back to the rear wheels, gaining traction.
Throttle on Oversteer something you can get in an Evo, but more common in RWD.. not happening in FWD.. This is where you steady throttle, or maybe back off. (though totally jumping out of it can produce an overcorrection) Steady throttle or a gentle lift is the smoothest way to "save" this type.
How do you know? be aware of whats happening. Concentrate. Know how you entered the corner, how you are leaving the corner.. etc.
Go run 12 autocrosses and come back for a checkup.
Jon K
www.seat-time.com
www.racerjon.com
lateral load oversteer.. (You drive in too fast/turn too sharp) and the back end steps out. This is actually when you roll into the throttle to "save" it.. the idea is to transfer weight back to the rear wheels, gaining traction.
Throttle on Oversteer something you can get in an Evo, but more common in RWD.. not happening in FWD.. This is where you steady throttle, or maybe back off. (though totally jumping out of it can produce an overcorrection) Steady throttle or a gentle lift is the smoothest way to "save" this type.
How do you know? be aware of whats happening. Concentrate. Know how you entered the corner, how you are leaving the corner.. etc.
Go run 12 autocrosses and come back for a checkup.

Jon K
www.seat-time.com
www.racerjon.com
Don't ever let the throttle off completely , especially if you are sensing a lose rear , you will then oversteer more . Just keep enough gas to keep traction on rear wheels . And be quick to contersteer if needed , just a little correction or the car will start swerving left and right and left ... Always be gentle
Last edited by Ippatsu Man; Aug 19, 2005 at 01:26 AM.
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Originally Posted by plokivos
go faster smoother, brake hard before entering the corner, always be on the throttle.
Originally Posted by OldschoolEVO
OK I'm not the best driver in the world but I am trying to do my best. When ever Im pushing my car hard in corners and the tail gets a little loose I keep wanting to let off the gas completly, resulting my more oversteer than I need. How do you all remember to stay on it or how much to let off.
yes i agree with rear wheel drive you'll be more fast at steady state, with awd we're playin' a different game... braking late and into the corner bleeding it off very smoothly (which is why left foot braking may become important) and then finding a good place near the end of the turn as soon as possible to mash it and straighten everything out.
Last edited by trinydex; Sep 13, 2005 at 04:23 AM.



