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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:48 AM
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Letting off gas

OK I'm not the best driver in the world but I am trying to do my best. When ever Im pushing my car hard in corners and the tail gets a little loose I keep wanting to let off the gas completly, resulting my more oversteer than I need. How do you all remember to stay on it or how much to let off.

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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i know this isnt going to help you but you jsut need to go out into a big parking lot and rip your car i had the same problem. that is everyones first instinct to let off the gas. pretty much you just need to get more stick time.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:52 AM
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:13 AM
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go faster smoother, brake hard before entering the corner, always be on the throttle.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by OldschoolEVO
OK I'm not the best driver in the world but I am trying to do my best. When ever Im pushing my car hard in corners and the tail gets a little loose I keep wanting to let off the gas completly, resulting my more oversteer than I need. How do you all remember to stay on it or how much to let off.
Driving a Camaro or 911 a couple of times will teach you.

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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Rear wheel drive is different.

Come into the corners with less speed. You shouldn't be trying to drop speed mid-corner, that will for sure loosen up the back-end. Brake harder coming into the corners and then add speed. Then you can use throttle-lift to balance the car. Come in slow, and leave fast. That's the best way to learn.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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I just need more seat time.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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You generally want to finish braking before you enter a turn unless you've mastered trail braking which is a technique used to induce slight oversteer if you're having too much understeer.

SO, you should finish braking before you even enter. Enter smoothly, but stay on the throttle, keeping a steady speed at middle corner, or apex, and once the apex ends and you start unwinding the wheel, accelerate smothly. It's really all about being smooth. But it basically sounds like you've been entering to fast and too late and turning in too hard...

Try going through a corner at a more mild controlled speed and pratice braking before the turn and keeping steady throttle through the turn, take the correct apex and smoothly get back on the throttle once you start unwinding the wheel...

a lot of beginner info here
http://home.pon.net/hunnicutt/perfdriv.htm

But if you're more advanced, and just having trouble and understand all of what I just said, here's ways to set up suspenions to control under/oversteer
http://rogerkrausracing.com/overundr.html
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 02:51 AM
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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First.. know which type of oversteer you are dealing with..

lateral load oversteer.. (You drive in too fast/turn too sharp) and the back end steps out. This is actually when you roll into the throttle to "save" it.. the idea is to transfer weight back to the rear wheels, gaining traction.

Throttle on Oversteer something you can get in an Evo, but more common in RWD.. not happening in FWD.. This is where you steady throttle, or maybe back off. (though totally jumping out of it can produce an overcorrection) Steady throttle or a gentle lift is the smoothest way to "save" this type.

How do you know? be aware of whats happening. Concentrate. Know how you entered the corner, how you are leaving the corner.. etc.

Go run 12 autocrosses and come back for a checkup.

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 01:24 AM
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Don't ever let the throttle off completely , especially if you are sensing a lose rear , you will then oversteer more . Just keep enough gas to keep traction on rear wheels . And be quick to contersteer if needed , just a little correction or the car will start swerving left and right and left ... Always be gentle

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by plokivos
go faster smoother, brake hard before entering the corner, always be on the throttle.
+1 actually I learned this playing Gran Turismo 2 on the old Playstation...I hate to say it, but it helps you in real life...it teaches you the theory of cornering, braking, and over/understeer. Give the game a try. I would say Gran Turismo 3 probably is the best simulator, just turn off AYC and other driving aids on the game.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by OldschoolEVO
OK I'm not the best driver in the world but I am trying to do my best. When ever Im pushing my car hard in corners and the tail gets a little loose I keep wanting to let off the gas completly, resulting my more oversteer than I need. How do you all remember to stay on it or how much to let off.
practice nad eventually left foot braking will give you the confidence that you need that you can slow down if you're in a hash and sitll maintain the correct weighting on all fours.

yes i agree with rear wheel drive you'll be more fast at steady state, with awd we're playin' a different game... braking late and into the corner bleeding it off very smoothly (which is why left foot braking may become important) and then finding a good place near the end of the turn as soon as possible to mash it and straighten everything out.

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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 04:42 AM
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tire pressure made a huge difference in how much my rear slips out from behind me, might wanna check that
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