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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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Wheel Spin During Cornering

Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else have a lot of wheel spin when accelerating into a turn??? I feel like I lose a lot of traction and i'm afraid one day I'll find myself into a center divide or in the opposing lanes traffic. Ok, I should probably slow down, but I don't wanna. For example, if I'm going to hard corner, I will down shift to third and then as soon as I'm coming out of the corner, I'll accelerate and that's when the wheel spin comes into place. Even sometimes when I'm turning a corner at a stop light I'll get a little extra spin.....Any suggestions???????
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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get new tires but seriously, if u're noticing so much wheel spin on the street, i think u just gotta slow down..

or it's that u're accelerating too hard during a turn..now im wondering why u're accelerating into a turn, you should keep the revvs up during the turn and accelerate coming uot of the turn..

EDIT: ok i reread your post again and it sounds like u're accelerating into and out of a turn..which is it? or is it really both? lol

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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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lol...sorry for not being clear....accelerating out of the turn.............sometimes i like to downshift and accelerate through the whole turn.....only because this is the first car i can....
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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This car has a lot of torque, you are most likely shifting into too low of a gear, or are gassing too much out of the corner. I wuld say just take it easier around the corners.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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thats what i think too, you're not gonna go faster out of a turn spinning the wheels and inducing understeer.
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 12:27 AM
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Are you spinning both wheels? Or just the inside one.
Because if it's both .. then you just need to get better tires and take it easy on the throttle. But if you are only lighting up the inside tire while cornering, maybe you need to think about getting a limited-slip diff.
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 12:55 AM
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LSD helps...
Better tires help...
Stop treating your gas pedal like an on-off switch definitely helps.

Try and understand the physics behind cornering, more specifically weight transfer and tire loads. Just because you hammer the throttle out of a corner doesn't necessarily mean you're going as fast as you can. Learn the right line, and be smooth. Usually the fast guys look slow but if they pushed any harder then it turns real ugly real quick, if you know what I mean. Looking and sounding fast usually means you're pushing the car and your tires way too hard and you're losing valuable seconds on the clock.
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 01:15 AM
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umm you're hearing the tire spinning because one wheel has to turn faster than the other wheel because the diameter of both wheels in the turn are different since one wheel is on the inside and the other is on the outside. I hear that wheel spin a lot too in my 2G eclipse, when i downshift at the end of a turn and gun it. And yes, i would recommend slowing down a little or at least until your car is straight before you gun it... my 2 cents. Also becareful when its wet. Oh yeah i saw you're location is in Elk Grove, me too, what color is your car, i'm sort of near the Unite Artist Theatre and I'm rolling in a Black Evo
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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I do believe Mitsu forgot 2 very important features when designing the Ralliart: AWD and limited slip. On stock suspension, I got tons of wheel spin when trying to power out of a corner in autocross. Lowering the car helped a little, as the tires stay planted better, but Limited slip will take care of the rest of it (too bad it's not legal in my category).

I also agree that if you're getting this on the streets, you might want to slow down a bit. But the above mods will help your handling more than you know.
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by TypeIII

Stop treating your gas pedal like an on-off switch definitely helps.
Try this first!

Brake hard into the corner, then modulate the throttle until you can achieve WOT exiting the turn. Even an OZ can spin the inside tire leaving a corner too aggressively. Mashing the gas doesn't not always mean you will go faster.

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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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Agreed, some of my fastest times seem, like the slowest. Slow down to go fast (my driving instructor said that)
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Re: Wheel Spin During Cornering

Originally posted by lkwdkuraj02
Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else have a lot of wheel spin when accelerating into a turn? I feel like I lose a lot of traction ... Any suggestions?
It sounds like there are 2 problems here:

(1) Accelerating too soon. Read about the proper cornering line and the friction circle. The idea is to brake, downshift, turn-in, balance the throttle to the apex, start to unwind the wheel, THEN start to accelerate. You have to do things in this order! If you are accelerating before the apex, it's too soon. If you are getting hard on the throttle before you start to unwind the wheel, it's too soon. You are artificially lowering the cornering limits of the car.

(2) Progressive throttle. As TypeIII says, the throttle is not a switch. You have to gently bleed on the throttle, never mash it. One of my better driving instructors once told me that it should take at least 2 seconds for the throttle pedal to drop all the way down to the floor. You progressively add throttle as you unwind the wheel. The key to high-performance driving is smooth inputs so the weight of the car gets shifted around seamlessly.

Try this and see what happens.

Emre
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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^ very good advice. Some of my fastest autocross runs seemed the slowest, because my transitions... braking, turning, accelerating... were smooth and calculated. It's like the car glided around every corner.
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