question... can i "turn off" the kit? what if i go on a road trip.. i don't think i can carry around a barrel fo methanol in my trunk...

 

All you do is stay off boost - it has a set point you can make at say 18 psi and it wont spray unless you reach that point

I drove from chi town to NY off boost on my race car

 

What's the duribility of this kit. Is it like NOS, where your engine will fail after so many miles (65000+). I'm not sure about this though, I just heard that NOS really tears your engine up. I'm thinking of this kit soon and just wondered as many do. How does it actually work. Is it just like NOS, in the set up and injection? Or is totally different. Just wondering because this is my daily driver and it seems great hp gain for the price.

 

Do a search on the turbo buick forums where they have examples of cars over 100,000 miles which use it regularly

If it is properly tuned it is just as safe as gas

Remember GASAHOL which is 15% ethanol and sold in many locations at the pump?

 

Hey Al what is the power diffrence on 93 gas with alky vs meth? Also i have a custom flash from you that i got done at topspeed in GA. I plan to add a alky kit and 280's to my setup when i get back from Iraq in a few months, whats the total for a reflash and the alky? Any military deals coming down the pipes soon? thanks bud, and keep up the good work.

 

I was tune for 100% denature alky at 25 psi. If I run 100% methanol it will run richer correct? Does this mean I can increase boost to maybe 27 psi? If I run 100% methanol can I lean it out some more use AFC. Not sure if leaning will give any more power vs a timing change.

Thanks.

 

I don't have sause injection yet but I'm willing to bet, if everything is installed right and is used properly, it would probably prolong engine life.

Think of it as a an extra backup for knock protection when boost is to high and the gas you just purchased was a crappy grade.

As soon as I get my finances built I'm getting one.

 

I think Al mentioned to run what you were tuned for, however, methonol carries a lower heat of vaporization and lower vapor pressure both of which enhance knock suppression and lower temps, so if you were tuned for denatured it's probably OK to use anhydrous (100% pure) methanol. You will be cooling the air more with the methanol so boost will allready naturally be higher.

Just don't go down the scale of alcohols (Methanol>Ethanol>Isopropanol>X + H20) and run like isopropyl, denatered, or washer fluid (has H20 content) when your AFR's are adjusted for methanol.

When I have a kit I will just get tuned for isopropyl, and adjust the mbc and use methyl or ethyl whenever because I know I'll be safe going up in grade.

If it was me and Al tuned my car for X and I had a safc, I would be afraid to touch anything when everything was already set perfectly for X, although you probably do have room for less fuel using a better alcohol. I'd just be safe get tuned for methyl and don't worry about it.

 

I gues sit all depends on what you can get or have access to in your area .

I am going to check today and see what I can find. I work right next to home depot..

 

Thanks for the information. I just found a place where I can get 100% methanol so I was thinking about using it. It's cheaper then denature alcohol and cools better. I wasn't sure if it'll buy me anything performance wise just by changing fluids with no other changes (increase boost, change in AFC, etc).

 

Gokou:

Yeah, It's confirmed methyl is the superior choice.

I was just saying it might be a little careless to play around w/t the safc once your allready tuned running 27 psi (2 times the amount of oxygen for combustion).

Furthermore You would think it would be on the safe side to spray the methyl when tuned for the denatured (ethyl), but I would check with the boss man first. You also might hit boost harder with the methyl.

Caution: Methanol will possibly ruin the paint finish. Get it on your skin and it will ruin your liver. Accidently ingest it you may go blind if you survive, it's almost odorless. KEEP AWAY FROM KIDS.

 

ot.. but still funny..
I just know alot about organic chemistry from the useless degrees I've formerly achieved.

in other words you wish you drank more in college..

 

You could run a touch more boot with methanol but its a marginal gain

 

I agree - at 27 psi leaning out is risky when pump gas is used

What man of these safc tuners fail to realize is that on my RACE car I run 11.1 / 1 a/f

The amount of whp you make running leaner is small

When you knock and the ecu pulls timing the power loss is greater

Finally - that methanol is no fing joke

I had some laying about which i felt may have adsorbed some water over time so to test it I poured it out on the ground and threw a match on it - man that is some nasty stuff ! No flame just a nice hole in my asphalt

 

another question.. my current mods are.... hks 272's, walbro 255, buschur intake/tbe, mail in dynoflash. I don't have head studs... if i get the alky kit is it safe to assume that i'd need the headstuds for sure? any other suggestions