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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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yea,, I'm sure, but do they give you enough time to react?
If you get off the throttle as soon as you see the warning light you should be fine. Placing the warning light in a place that is visible while driving is key.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Well, SMC should have waited till they get their **** all worked out before before releasing their kit. Nozzles get clogged, lines break, pump diaphgram break, no failsafe device. Its like buying a car and then having to install airbags in after. Very bad engineering practice IMHO!
Just so you know SMC has been around for a long long time in the Turbo Buick community

The product works very well

The fail safe is the yellow light built into the control unit - we advise customers to test the kit - which takes 2 secs - every time they get in the car

The fact that SMC is trying to modify and ADD to the existing kit to react to customer feed back and requests is very positive
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowCar
Well, SMC should have waited till they get their **** all worked out before before releasing their kit. Nozzles get clogged, lines break, pump diaphgram break, no failsafe device. Its like buying a car and then having to install airbags in after. Very bad engineering practice IMHO!
mmm i see,hey "slowcar" how's that aquamist working for ya? any big differance in power compared to alky? safer?
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowCar
Well, SMC should have waited till they get their **** all worked out before before releasing their kit. Nozzles get clogged, lines break, pump diaphgram break, no failsafe device. Its like buying a car and then having to install airbags in after. Very bad engineering practice IMHO!
I'm all in favor of safety devices for alky injection -- that's why I have a wideband gauge suction-cupped to my windshield that flashes brightly when the car goes leaner than a certain AFR when higher than a certain boost level.

But, don't forget that our cars are equally succeptible to catastrophic failure if a regular old fuel injector gets clogged or if a fuel pump falters, or if we get a bad enough tank of gas, or if a fuel filter clogs, or if the oil pump decides to quit, etc. We don't all have fuel pressure and oil pressure warning lights, do we? Or Knock Links to monitor for the effects of potential bad gas?

But when it comes to alky injection, everyone thinks that if the car won't automatically adjust for a mechanical problem, moreso than for one of these other potential mechanical failures, that there has been a grave design oversight.

Alky injection has added risk for sure, but once you leave behind a bone stock car running a ridiculously conservative tune and start turning up the boost and timing and leaning out the fuel, there is added risk. We do what we can to minimize risks (like not driving turbo rotary RX7s), but in the end the increase risk of engine failure is just part of having a lightweight, responsive and yet very powerful car -- the price of having your cake and eating it too.

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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Is a fast acting boost cut solenoid that hard to implement........i just like to see a more "well thought" of product! A lot of damage can be done @~30psi when something screws up.

Its good to hear that SMC is reacting to feedbacks and trying to come up with a failsafe solution.

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Just so you know SMC has been around for a long long time in the Turbo Buick community

The product works very well

The fail safe is the yellow light built into the control unit - we advise customers to test the kit - which takes 2 secs - every time they get in the car

The fact that SMC is trying to modify and ADD to the existing kit to react to customer feed back and requests is very positive
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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I went thru more than 6 months before deciding with the aquamist system - very well engineered system! Initially, i wanted to build my own shurflo based system, was trying to incorporate all the safety features of the aquamist system, yes it could be done, but i will end up with an unsightly mess of flow sensor, and pressure sensors and at the end of the day, costing a lot for parts and not able to come up with a well designed/compact/inherently system.

I have not tried anything other than water. When my car was tuned by Nick from PD, there was not even the slightest hint of knock at crazy timing advance. I had problem with misfiring tho, the stock ignition system kept misfiring. When Nick comes back the next time, I'll have a HKS DLI II, bigger water jet and maybe switch to 91 to see how far water will go. Will be posting results here.

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mmm i see,hey "slowcar" how's that aquamist working for ya? any big differance in power compared to alky? safer?
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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There are a few guys here with aquamist, EvoTio, nothere....please chime in
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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There are a few guys here with aquamist, EvoTio, nothere....please chime in
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 01:11 AM
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I have a street tune with 100% methanol. I love it........al is the master at the SMC kit cant go wrong

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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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I have a street tune with 100% methanol. I love it........al is the master at the SMC kit cant go wrong

PJ
How do you have it set up? at how many pounds does it starts sprying?
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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Is the yellow warning light seperatly located from the control box? if so you could tap into it. Use it as a signal wire for a relay that activates or deactivates a boost controller to turn the car to wg boost (11psi). On my silvia i did this with my wideband, it had and external output and my E-01 boost controler would read that signal. ever time the fuel would go lean above a certian rpm the e-01 would cut the boost all the way down. It was very fast as close to instant as your going to get.
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