I will be offering you guys a extreme discount on this to make up for the lengthy delays

I will have some prospective dates withina few days

 

Awesome, welcome back Al! Don't forget, I'm keeping my promise: I'll bring you the best pizza in Chicago!

 

Who makes the best pizza in Chicago?

 

Heck if there is pizza, I will make sure I am there! Of course, I guess I have to be there since my deposit is still in!

 

Hopefully we'll have our IX by then (or have decided to keep our VIII). Al, I'm telling you man I still want to be tuned, lol.

 

I have been monitoring this thread and am very interested. I just need to know the date before I deposit the money. COUNT ME IN POSSIBLY!

Two more quick questions Al: If I cannot make the date and I opt for the mail-in tune, how much does it cost to get upgraded to a custom tune once you come back to Chicago again. Also, what is the difference in hp between a custom tune and mail-in flash with minimal mods (exhaust, MBC, etc.)?

Thanks!

 

How about a free 2 step flash

 

Well, that's the dilemma. You won't GET a date until the deposits are in. WHen people wait to send their deposits, then the date keeps getting pushed further and further back as other locations send their deposits in. This trip could have been in mid-April, but due to the hesitance, it is now pushed all the way back to late May. If the deposits still don't come in, then it will just keep going back, so it helps if you can bite the bullet and just send the deposit. Right now, you're looking at the weekend of May 27/28.

For a repeat customer, it's $300 for a custom road tune at a later date. However, you should really get road tuned on this trip, because his prices are going to be rock-bottom.

There is no exact difference in HP between the two tunes. It's always relative and dependent on the car. The main difference is that the entire tune gets optimized 100% for your car and how it rolls on the road. A mail-in is more conservative, because it is a "best-guess" on what is good for your car and your mods. A road tune is far superior for safety, reliability, smooth power delivery, and max power reasons.

 

Ahh very good I see.

So Warr...

Does it make sense that a mail in tune is $300, and to get an upgrade, you have to pay an addition $300 ($600)? A custom tune by itself is around $350 isnt it? It wouldnt even really be worth it financially to purchase a mail in tune if you plan on getting custom tuned later...

Im not trying to start an arguement. Im just trying to learn.

Also, in speculation, would you say there is a 5whp difference in a totally stock IX mail-in flash compared to a custom flash, or more or less than 5 whp?

 

Hey I said just Al!

My father actually owns a restaurant in the suburbs and makes an awesome pizza. We get customers telling us they would go no where else

 

Hmm, I think you have the numbers mixed up. First of all, it says you have a WRX, so I'm not sure how to accurately answer your question. Could you update your profile to include your actual Evo? Since you specifically asked about a IX in the last paragarph, I will assume you have a IX.

So, a regular IX mail-in flash is $300 remotely, but is only $250 in person. A custom IX flash is $450 on a trip. So, if you pay $250 in person for a base flash, then $300 later for a road tune, you've paid $550 total instead of $450 total, but with your car tuned during that whole time you waited for the custom flash. Is $100 worth having your car tuned and rocking during the wait time? That's up to you. If you plan to get custom tuned in the near future, then getting a base flash is probably not worth it. If there will be a long time between the base flash and custom tune, then I think the $100 differential is definitely worth it. Better to drive around with a well-tuned, fast car than to just save $100. Again, that's all up to you.

No custom tune is $350, not even for VIIIs - those are $375 on a trip and normally $400 at Dynoflash. You guys are going to get special pricing on this trip, so I highly recommend taking advantage of a custom tune. Otherwise, you'll end up spending more than you need to spend.

Yeah, it's usually no less than a 5whp peak difference, but you need to transcend that whole peak HP mentality. It's not about the peak numbers - it's about the area under the curve. You could very well gain 5whp peak, but gain 10-15 through the mid-range. The base flash tune will have a smoother power curve than stock, but not as smooth as a custom tune. So, the benefit of the custom tune is that it is 100% specified to your car, your mods, your altitude, your climate, your roads, and your personality. A base flash can only guess at these things while leaving extra room for error in case of poor conditions. To reiterate, I ran a 12.26 on my base flash on my VIII with basic mods, so it is still a great tune - it's just not optimal.

 

People send in your money, waiting just delays things as War says..

 

Thanks for clearing that up for me Warr. I appreciate it

 

This is you chance for free advertisement, Name and location of "The Best Pizza in Chicago" please. And I hope you're talkin deep dish here.

 

For those of you who want to get tuned on a dyno you should contact P&L motorsports in Franklin Park to discuss dyno time for the tune. If enough people are interested in renting out dyno time you may be able to get a reduced rate.

http://www.pandlmotorsports.com/