Dammit, no!!!!!!!! Do not use the Typhoon under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE!

 

gotcha im just upset that i didnt find out how bad the intake was untill it was too late 200.00 down the drain and i cant sell it i have tried

 

I don't mean to be a dick, but are you saying this because you have personal experience or because they don't sponsor you? I know I am in the minority of Evo owners that have used this intake, but I don't see the problem. I have been custom tuned by Al twice, Altered Atmosphere once(SAFC), and once by TT. None of the tuners has had any issues with the intake. You may even remember the tune at Altered, which you set up, where I put down about 298whp. I had the graph that showed that I was still making power well after 7k. I do not credit this to the intake, but just as a reference for your memory.

Maybe every tuner that has touched my car has lied to me when they said that it pulls hard. Maybe they have all lied about my solid AFRs. Or maybe the typhoon works.

I have been using the typhoon for over two years and 40k miles. Maybe it is some kind of freak accident that it has worked so well for so long, but I don't think so. ANY competent tuner can tune a car with this intake.

I do not understand why you have changed like you have Clayton. I can only guess that it is because you have sponsors now. You lose any objectivity once you become sponsored and all credibility when you slam a product that you have never used.

 

What is this all about? I haven't changed. I've said the same thing about the Typhoon from day one. This is common knowledge that it's the absolute WORST intake for the Evo. I don't know why you're going off on this tangent about me being sponsored when I have been against intakes from the beginning. I can't believe you'd make these accusations.

The MAF pipe on the Typhoon is bad for the Evo - the cone filter is fine if tuned. If your car works well with the Typhoon MAF pipe, then yes you are very lucky.

Here's the earliest example I can find, which was well before any of my sponsorships:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hlight=typhoon

Remember, I didn't start getting my sponsorships until after I ran a 12.26 on pump gas with Al's mail-in flash, which was on the last day of the drag racing season in November or so...

 

Umm, that may or may not be true, but what is true is that there seem to be a large number of people who have had problems with this intake since it was released. I recall one thread where people were covering half or more of the intake to try to prevent it from messing with the MAF sensor. I'm surprised that K&N has not released a redesigned product in the 3 years since this flawed version came out.

Lacoste

 

lol i sold mine for like 100$ i was happy to be rid of that piece of crap....

 

Im one of those people that have this intake. Yes it makes the car run rich and drops your mpg noticably. Whats a good intake system? I will put the rubber tube back in for now but I guess I need an intake

 

My point is that you have never used this intake and yet you still say it is the worst one out there. Should I bash a product that I have never used just because a lot of people have had issues with it? No, I shouldn't.

I would meet you halfway on this if you said it was the worst one untuned or marginal at best with a mail-in flash. The Typhoon needs to be customed tuned to get results. When Al or TT or any other tuner turns me away because of my Typhoon, then maybe I could see your side. They won't turn me away because they know they can tune it given some time and effort. They also know that it will not harm the car IF it is tuned properly. They may not prefer to tune this intake, but no reputable tuner, to my knowledge, has claimed that they can't.

I really didn't mean this as a personal attack, but it did come off that way. I get frustrated when I read these posts like this that are not based on anything more than what people have heard and is widely accepted. I still mean what I wrote about your objectivity and credibility - you cannot argue that.

 

Why do you want an intake so bad? I've seen your sig for a long time and have always cringed. YOu have the worst intake for the Evo, and you have the worst BOV for the Evo. On other cars, these parts are pretty high quality, so don't think I'm just bashing them randomly. If you put on the stock MAF pipe, your car will immediately run better. If you are not tuned, then if you go ahead and put on the stock airbox, your car will run even better once again. If you are tuned for an intake already, then keep the cone filter and just get rid of the hard pipe.

 

Believe what you want to believe. You just don't seem to get it, and it's not worth my effort to continue explaining it. Some people listen; some don't.

I will continue to point people in the right direction for their own good, and it has nothing to do with sponsorship. Likewise, my credibily is not in question, so I can certainly argue your point there. Please, find me promoting an intake from any vendor, including my sponsors. The only difference between the thread I showed you above and this thread is that now I'm sponsored, so you can use it as a cop-out for trying to discredit my opinion on the matter.

 

I guess I missed the thread where you personally tested every single intake out there and found that the Typhoon was the worst and the stock box was the best. Please post the link here.

If you do not see how your credibility is undermined by making statements like these, you need to take a step back and and get an opinion on the matter from someone you feel comfortable getting criticism from. I have used the Typhoon for long enough to make credible statements about its performance or lack there of. You haven't. Thus, you cannot make statements like this.

 

There are exceptions to every rule. It is common knowledge that the Typhoon is awful due to the poorly-designed MAF pipe. You can proliferate your assertion that the Typhoon is fine because of your rare, lucky experience with it, but most people have big problems with it. I don't have to personally own something to know it is not recommended for the Evo.

 

HKS Racing Suction kit. The yellow filter (2-layer) doesn't really filter anything. Perhaps leaves and insects. The green stuff (3-layer) is better, but I haven't gotten round to chaning over to it to find out.

IMHO anything without some sort of shrouding would be sucking in not air from inside the engine bay, and I think that perhaps the most thermaly conductive piping really isn't the best idea, with the engine bay being hot and all.

P.S. I like the K&N drop-in though, I can wash it when I'm bored. As long as you don't go over board with the oil, i haven't found it to be a problem.

 

hey Warr and Evo Spooling, did either of you read post 8??

i, too, fell into the marketing of the typhoon. it worked well for awhile, until i got a tune from WORKS. the intake never gave me a stalling problem nor did it give me an overly rich condition-watched my pocketlogger and datalogged it.

it did, however, feel like it lost some oomph at the higher rpms. it didnt have the same pull as the stock air box. i put the stock airbox back on under WORKS recommendation and BAMMMM!!! i was slammed into my seat with torque. made a HUGE difference in torque down low. dont know why that was. but it worked. i have the damn K/N thing in the box in the attic collecting dust.

lets try and test them(HKS RS and K/N) back to back to back and see what happens ON THE SAME CAR. you all are wanting an answer as am I. lets see what we can do. after all, it was us-the little people-who started a revolution in import tuning. others just capitolized on their knowledge. the import community can learn some things from AL, Dave, and others. remember, Dave is ALWAYS trying to figure something out new-something others havent tried yet.

so lets try it.

cut out the darn flap and retest.

use the stock tube with the filter and retest.

put the K/N tube up next to the HKS tube and compare.

use a HKS filter on the K/N tube and retest.

check the length differences of the HKS and K/N

check the diameters of the HKS tube and the K/N

analyze it, re-engineer it, rework it not fight about it...

okay, soap box is yours now Warr....

 

Well this sucks! I guess I'll just go back to the stock box with a high flow drop in filter. It just took so much time with the damn IC piping and all the extra STUPID little parts that were added on!