Okay...right now I have a HKS rs intake, 3" tbe, 272's, Walbro, and HKS EVC-V set to 21 psi with a custom tune.

I'm looking into buying a FMIC, intercooler pipe kit, and either TME or a 10.5 hotside. I will be looking to get retuned in the next few months at Buschur when Al makes another showing there. With all these mods, should I be fine with the stock injectors or should I go up to some 680's?

RIght now, my car idles like crap with the 272's in it. It wants to die on some occasions and will idle really low (500rpm) and its starting to get on my nerves. I like the lope, but I also like when I had my 264's Al tuned the cams to idle like stock. Is that possible to do with 272's? Or at least make it idle better without cam gears?

Thanks....

Corey

 

i have a new way of reflashing to really help the idle it has even had great results on 280s

 

Thanks for getting back with me Al. I know your a busy man. Would suggest some 680's with the future mods I'm planning on getting or do you think I'll be fine?

 

Well since you posted in a public forum, I will give you my opinion.

No, you do not need 680s for what you are going to plan on putting on. You only need to upgrade your injectors if you upgrade your turbo.

Also, I am a little shocked that you are looking into a FMIC. It has been proven time and time again that the stocker is good for up to and over 400 awhp. But, hey, its up to you . Also, I had a pretty lumpy idle too with my 272 intake cam. Al can get it to be nice and smooth. The bad part about it, is that you will have a high idle sometimes when in neutral (like sitting at a stop light in neutral, your rpms will be around 1000 or 1100).

The TME is an excellent option. But, it wont give you that much more peak hp than an 03 with a 10.5 HS. Of course, the TME spools like a *****.

Let me know what you decide to do.
Later man,
Nathan

 

I know the sotck FMIC is good for 400hp, but you still get gains out of a bigger one with a pipe kit. There really isn't much else I haven't done or can do that is considered a bolt on.

I don't know. I guess I figure if I'm gonna get retuned, I want to have some other parts on it first just to gain as much power as possible.

 

No offense, but if you want to make some power, buy the 10.5 hotside, 680 injectors and the water injection kit, and run washer solvent!!!

Those mods will produce huge power with a reflash. I would not run a bigger intercooler yet.

My thoughts...

 

Those are my thoughts too. However, I still dont agree with the 680 injectors. I mean on pump gas on 21.5 lbs of boost you are not reaching maximum threshold on the injector duty cycle. If you run alky, that percentage will drop even further. So, why spend the extra cash on injectors if they are not needed (yet)?

 

I know what you mean about adding parts on when you get re-tuned. You kinda want to get your money's worth.

I am still skeptical about upgrading the I/C on the stock turbo though. There are numerous accounts of not gaining much at all, peak or across the board, with an upgraded IC on the stock turbo. The main one that I am thinking of is the Buschur core. I know a few people down here who saw practically no gains at all. I say spend that money towards alky, which will yeild you a better hp/$ output.

Let me know what you decided though, as I am curious.

 

I'm not really interested in a alky or meth kit. It's just something else to spend money on, on top of gas. I've never really even looked or researched the kits cause I have no interest in it. On top of a alky kit comes higher boost levels. I don't have headstuds and don't really feel the need to run higher. My goal is to reach around 340-350 whp on JUST pump gas. I'm sure other poeple have done it.

Hell...Micah has all that stuff and was trapping 2.5 mph faster than me. It can't be just the 280's he's running.

I may just a ic pipe kit and see if this TME is gonna happen or not. If not, then I'll just get a 10.5 hotside. I don't know....I'll figure something out.

 

Micah isnt running alky injection is he?
Those 280's are flat out mean. There is a big difference between those and the 264 or 272 combos.

If I could find a good deal on a TME I would buy one in a heartbeat. However, I havent found a good deal yet. I am a bit like you, I just dont like buying new

Later,
Nathan

 

Micah was running ol' 93 in it. Dumprd the rest out and put C16 in it and ran almost 94 mph. I know there is a diff between them, but his 2.5 mph over me wasn't just his cams IMO.

 

the fmic will help, although the benefit might be minimal with your current (and planned) mods so its up to you.....a cheaper alternative would be just to get an aftermarket lower IC piping, such as bushur or even fighter's garage. That'll free up some hp pretty cheaply.

you DONT need injectors with the stock turbo. Al's retune will take care of your 272's and idling. You don't need cam gears to get the idle right.

Alky will help you get more power outta the stock turbo but if you dont want to run alky, then might as well get the fmic if you're planning on modding your car more in the future. Other possible mods you might want to think about in the future or even now would be either a BR ported/coated manifold, or a tubular header such as DC or maxford which will lose you a little bit of midrange power, but help you up top (the tubular header i mean, not the BR cast mani)....also, people have been raving about the ebay o2 housing (including dave buschur) so maybe you can do a little research into that.

so just a few things to consider.....as always, just my .02

 

I completely agree with Yellow here. However, I am a bit skeptical about the Ebay O2 housing. What I dont like about it is that it is missing a bolt where it attaches to the car. The stock O2 housing has the bolt there for a reason. I am curious as to the downsides to this. Will it cause any sort of related weight stress on the turbo?

If I am not clear on my above statement, let me know. I will try to re-clarify.

Later,
Nathan

 

i agree with you on the ebay o2 housing Nathan. It's going to be a while before people can say for sure if this new housing will stand the test of time.

I'm just telling him to research into it and decide if it's for him or not....to each their own.

 

ok sorry im new the whole evo thing...what the heck r u talkin about when u say TME? oh and i personally saw Al tune a VIII with 280s and it was frickin sweet man! sounded so good and idled perfect...