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Poll: Should Al use a Dynoflash on his own car?

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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Poll: Should Al use a Dynoflash on his own car?

Al, unless you are going after Buschur, AMS, Curt Brown, and Dan Bajalais to claim fastest 1/4 mile USDM Evo honors, why not try something new and go after the fastest OEM ECU record? I know it is one of those kinda lame titles people make fun of, like "fastest 1/4 mile with a catalytic converter" but still, it is fully appropriate for your business and I think folks would respect you taking this approach.

People are always giving you crap about other people tuning your AEM. I think it would be cool to see you run (for example) a 10.2 at 138mph on the stock ECU. It would certainly shut up your detractors.

I personally think it would be good for your business to see what you could do. I set up a poll to see what others think about this subject. How fast do you think you could go?

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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Thats totally unreasonable considering the time and money he has invested into his car. there is no way a stock ecu in it's current tunning range couls ever support a 42r not to mention his cam and manifold choice.
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Thats totally unreasonable considering the time and money he has invested into his car. there is no way a stock ecu in it's current tunning range couls ever support a 42r not to mention his cam and manifold choice.
I completely agree, but he could do this on a second car -OR- sell some of his current parts to make changes to his setup.
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Smoggie has a point. He pushes his flash, but he doesnt even use his own product. Not very convincing to the consumer. It seems like he doesnt have faith in his own flashes.
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cpoevo
Smoggie has a point. He pushes his flash, but he doesnt even use his own product. Not very convincing to the consumer. It seems like he doesnt have faith in his own flashes.
OMG are u seroius?!? theres only so much u can use a flash for... when u get up there.. u gotta go standalone...duhhhh
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cpoevo
Smoggie has a point. He pushes his flash, but he doesnt even use his own product. Not very convincing to the consumer. It seems like he doesnt have faith in his own flashes.
I personally don't begrudge Al at all on this point. He wants to be the fastest and the AEM is definitely the way to go for all out speed in the 1/4.

Al, I wouldn't blame you for questioning my motives for starting this thread, but they aren't to bash you in any way. I actually am sincere that it would be cool to what you could with a reflash.

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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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^^

what he said......and doesn't al tune his own AEM? so isn't he still technically using a "dynoflash"....
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowEVO21
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what he said......and doesn't al tune his own AEM? so isn't he still technically using a "dynoflash"....
Last time I read about that subject, David Buschur was tuning Al's car.

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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Well hold on. Before answering this I would like an answe as to what goal Al is shooting for? Its been daily driver full out race car back and forth a good few times, set the record straight Al, race car or street car? If its not a full built race car street car makes more sense... Isnt OBD2 compliance on cars our year a requirement in every state?

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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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I think considerable power could be made with the flash and im surprised he didnt go further than he did before switching to the AEM. The limiting factor would be scaling down the approprate injectors(i think 1000cc is the max) and the flow capabilities of the stock MAF.I think he should do it on a lucky customers car, it would be a great project to follow.
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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I seriously shat myself after reading this thread. First off.... its too risky to do this to a "lucky customer" and second, Al's car is way out of the league of the stock ecu.

Tiime to move along and forget this thread.
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by teknishnIX
I seriously shat myself after reading this thread. First off.... its too risky to do this to a "lucky customer" and second, Al's car is way out of the league of the stock ecu.

Tiime to move along and forget this thread.
risky? why so? he has tuned close to 4000 evos.

Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I have now tuned nearly 4,000 Evos with my tuning methods and there are zero examples of any tuning related issues what so ever.
it would be a real honor
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by teknishnIX
I seriously shat myself after reading this thread. First off.... its too risky to do this to a "lucky customer" and second, Al's car is way out of the league of the stock ecu.

Tiime to move along and forget this thread.
Then my question is: What is Al's angle? Although I'd be hella impressed with myself if I had the 6th fastest Evo in the states, I don't know if I'd keep going after AMS, Buschur and the other boys. They seem to have the resources that will make it hard for Al to keep up with. If Al wants to chase them down into the mid 8s good for him.

On the other hand, Al could make quite a name for himself and his product if he took reflashing performance to the highest level... It would also assure his customers that he has taken the ECU to its outer limits and knows the exact limitations of it.
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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I dunno, I'm already overly impressed with the work hes done on his safe mail in reflashes. I put my car on the dyno after his mail in reflash and everything was superb. I was shocked at how well it did, and not only were the A/F numbers perfect, I also had the highest numbers of the night for a mostly stock Evo at the Evo/STi dyno day here locally.

Call me crazy, but thats some pretty damn convincing tuning right there.
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Maybe it would be a perfect project for Al if he had a second Evo...
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