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since then no black smoke has come out of my exhaust (or at least no one has noted so) but the bits of unburnt fuel no longer come out.

anyhow i did communicate to you that the car was no faster than it previously was.

 

yes i thought that. most other dyno's of everyone elses car's i see have relatively flat afr's around 11.2-11.3 across the board while mine is bouncing off the wall. that's very upsetting to me. dunno whats up with the boost. whats so weird about it? i've never read a boost graph before. just afr and hp/tq curves mostly. honestly i dont even know what i'm looking at as far as the boost graph.

 

Please Email me the map that is in your car to

Alfriedesq@aol.com

Also any Evo Scan data logs

I will look it over closely

Your car is not running properly as Clay has suggested

When I first looked at your dyno sheet I assumed it was without cams

As Clay has correctly suggested the TQ is very low in relationship to the whp and the shape of the TQ and boost curves is not typical which MAY be related to the way the dyno is configured as I suggested in my previous post

Based upon your low trap speeds at the track I would suggest that something else is going on here

I am more than happy to help you get to the bottom of it even if that means me comming there personally to help resolve it

However, I would suggest that you consider a more constructive approach to trying to get help to resolve your problems in the future

AL

 

i'll try tomorrow night. no promises as i don't have a laptop or any way to extract the data. my friend eshark can do it but it depends on his availability/weather etc.

Al there are plenty more thing's i could say as far as how you've treated me both times i've met you but i didn't. i kept it car related and did my best to show evidence of what's happened in my tune, since so many times clay has told me to stop selling you short. i respect him a lot and went along with his request, which has only further proved my "opinion"

life is how it is sometimes and i just got the short end of the stick. i did not come in here with intent to ask for a free map. however i will do my best to send you the data for your own personal inquiry in case you wondered what went wrong. if anything it's a learning experience you'll grow from.

best wishes

 

My main concern frankly is in finding out what is wrong with your car be it the tune or what ever and correcting the situation

You may feel like you have the short end of the stick at this point . . . but with my experience and knowledge I would like to assist you to turn things about so not only does your car run faster but maybe you can feel like you have a bit longer end of the stick in the end

I will go through my records and try and locate the last map that was in your car

However, as I have requested, the best route is to send me your map that is in the car so I can look it over and see if any of the problem you are having is related to the tuning that is in there

Finally, I would like to know if you can pull the spark plugs after a long pull and send me a digital photo

This may sound over simplistic - but have you lined up the cam timing marks - including the front balance shaft recently ?

Al

 

You're being way to nice man. I guess that's why I don't run a tuning business. By now I'd let the dude spend more $ getting tuned by someone else when looking at the graph's he posted up it looks like something on the mechanical side of things is more a miss then the tune. When I pick up an Evo Al will be the one getting me a base flash if for nothing else the way he responds to jackass posts that will accomplish nothing, especially when you haven't even had the chance to see if you can help determine the problem, then fix it.

 

I am not sure if that was mentioned before or not but usually the sniffer all the way back in the muffler reads a half to a full point off. So if thats true in your case you are about 11 AFR.

Just thought I would bring that up.

 

In most cases I shoot for a 11.3 - 11.1 a/f up top and I also measure mine in the tail pipe

I am now using a similar DD dyno and I have seen it read funny if the long sniffer pipe is cocked in the back end at an odd angle

In the case of this car running 110 MPH in the 1/4 - that is a bit on the slow side for what I would expect with these mods and also the TQ numbers are too low

on the positive side - it looks like its very repeatable and consisant from run to run and DD dynos read a bit on the low side so it may be only down 20 whp or so

Again, I take a lot of pride in what I do and I am ready to help any of my customers who may be experiencing technical frustrations

I have not yet encountered the car I could not sort out - but sometimes it may take a while to get to the bottom of a situation

For example the "case study" I did a few weeks ago with the backwards cam cap installed and tuned else where which needed a new head - that was not that easy to diagnose

 

Looks to have a bit of timing pulled right after 4500 rpms.

Judging a/f just by the tailpipe sniffer isnt always the most accurate either. Especially if you dont know the characteristics of the dyno.

I have seen much worse dyno graphs.

 

Al, I just emailed you kevin's map.

 

I have updated and revised his map based upon what I see in his dyno sheet and returned the map via email

Please try the map I just sent and report back

AL

 

[quote=Kee1pride;3746955]
since then no black smoke has come out of my exhaust (or at least no one has noted so) but the bits of unburnt fuel no longer come out.

[quote]Is it a collective known fact that unburnt fuel can be seen as black vapor out the tail pipe? I here this alot but I just can't see how this can happen.

If your talking about the source of bumber staining then I believe thats from oil passing the PVCC valve into the tract where it might mix and burn, at least I confirmed the cause with my own car.

Anyway, your car looks like it's runnig strong to me, I'd turn the boost up a psi or two though - no spikes also, good mbc install maybe

 

pm'd you, Al

 

The list of problems that could be wrong with this car is just rediculous. Blaming Al and making a post like this is a poor way of trying to get the car worked out, that's for sure.

Al, you are becoming too nice in your OLD SUBARU driving days! haha

 

[QUOTE=Kee1pride;3746756]
Then a friend threw my map into his car,


Am i the only one that noticed this...and thinks it's wrong to share a map you didn't create yourself, regardless if it's bad or good.