Originally Posted by dude

Shiv I think the only way this would ever be solved is if you and Al started with the Same EVO (call it a stock EVO for ****s and giggles) on the SAME day and using the SAME dyno. First flip a coin to see who goes first, winner chooses. Upload Mail-in Dynoflash or baseline Xede/Xedeflash and dyno. Reflash back to stock and change tuner system, dyno again immediately. Compare results. I have no doubt as to the results, just what Al's excuses would be.

Next, flip a coin again for custom tuning to see who goes first. "road tune" or dyno tune, then flash back to stock, switch and compare results on the dyno. Assuming all this happens on a relatively consistent day temperature wise (to reduce al's excuses as much as possible) and on a third party dyno (remember, you could "manipulate" yours and we all know he couldn't possible figure out any type of fancy, scientific "testing" machine) we might end all this dabble.

I just wish he wouldn't post so much misinformation as I'd imagine alot of the newbies on here without much car experience are being swept away by all the outlandish claims he makes, esp since he has his own forum. Not doubting the newbies intelligence (okay, maybe I am) but it sure would take a lot of searching and reading to discern the truth, and we all know how many people actually search before posting...

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Needless to say, I'm up for it