Would it be better to say your car weighs a little more on the mustang dyno or less when entering it in on the computer to figure out the resistence.

 

This is one of the reasons why I prefer the Dyno Jet - there is nothing to manipulate or adjust

In this case it seems as if the dyno was being used at a dyno day with other evos and the people there would have enjoyed seeing a bad result on my car - instead I hear it was one of the strongest examples they have seen on the dyno

As for the exact ways you can manipulate numbers on a mustang dyno - I know nothing about that subject

 

I'm confused Al...according to this thread it looks like the dyno has been manipulated a lot and does not really give you cause for celebration does it?
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...937#post968937

 

This car rocks. I'm pretty sure it put down more torque than any EVO ever on this dyno, and that includes a pretty big turbo EVO. His hp is higher than any stock cam EVO on this dyno.
You're mistaken. Al wasn't even there. No manipulation involved.

 

I think what Limey was referring to was this statement by Shiv about the above Dyno Sheet...

 

I saw that and think they are mistaken as well. Here's my post.

 

I think thyat was some funny stuff you posted - its funny - I was 3 hours away in Dallas when they did the pulls on this car and Shiv is accusing me of playing with the numbers??? Maybe Mp5 is to blame as he was standing right there - or at least thats what they tell me

Who cares anyway ?

The customer is happy and his car is fast - and its lasted for a long time with my tune with no advserse consiqeunce - thats all that matters !

 

No Al....My point was not that you manipulated the numbers, but that the numbers were manipulated and you are choosing to ignore this fact and are continuing to brag about results that are obviously very wrong

For a 4G63 to create the characteristics seen in this graph it would need more than a simple "Dynoflash"....these curves are more suited to an american big cubed V8 than a 2.0 ltr 4 cylinder, and I am sure a Dynoflash does not change the entire volumetric efficiency of an engine

"who cares anyway?"....your customers should care that you would not think this was a little strange, and because of this I would think you would care...

 

Funny, I don't remember seeing you there that day. Just to clear things up for all the "experts". This was the only car that day that put down any where near this much torque. There were 2 WRXs, an STi and 3 EVOs that dynoed. This car wasn't the first or last and nothing was changed in between. The owner of the shop drove it after the dyno run and said it pulled like a beast.

Stock EVOs normally put down 210-220 for hp and trq on this dyno.

I'm not sure why this car made the trq it did. Was it Al's tuning or is this some EVO freak?

 

I just dynoed on a mustang dyno with turbo back exhaust, manual boost controller and dynoflash. I put down 278 awhp and 318 ft/lbs on 92 octane. Al knows what he is doing !!!

 

I too dyno'd on a MD AWD Dyno, but had very different results.

Mods were: Intake, TB Exhaust, 264/272, Walbro pump, DynoFlash, and SAFC II. 93/94 Octane, 22psi dropping down to 18 at redline. Pull was done in 4th gear, imput weight was around 3450.

262.5HP @ 6700RPM
254.3TQ @ 3700RPM

I went to the track a couple days later and ran:

12.27@111.40MPH w/1.74 60'
12.34@111.40MPH w/1.84 60'
12.45@111.11MPH w/1.88 60'

Im no super driver, but it was hooking up fairly well and I didn't miss a single shift.

I guess what Im trying to say is, let's see what this car runs. Without the BS of "my clutch... I missed 2nd... Im new to this" the numbers should tell the story.


I makes me think of one of my favorite jokes... "What does a 400HP and a 1000HP Supra have in common?" - 11 second timeslips!

Im not saying Al has a bad product - he doesn't, his dynoflashes are AWESOME. I just think something might have been overlooked and these graphs may need a tad more "inspection".

 

I guess the case of the torque monster is solved then.... you must be right, just reading your posts indicates to me that I am well out of my league as far as interlect and knowledge is concerned... my only hope is that one day my car will perform like a "Dynoflash" car I have tried seeing your point of view,but I couln't get my head that far up my ***....

 

As I've said, I have no DynoFlash products. I just tire of people explaining things in which they had no involvement. I don't claim to have any sort of special skills or knowledge. In fact, those that know me, know it is quite the opposite. I do know what I saw and as of yet, only Shiv has offered any sort of thoughtful and reasoned responce.

 

Believe me... Al's torque is no phantom. As you can see from my #s below, my torque is also "suspiciously" high compared to my HP, but it's for real. The car pulls like a big block from a stop. Nobody believes my car is a 2L 4Cyl... When you can spin all 4 grippy Advans with 2 skeptical V8 drivers in the car from a launch, you know you've got the TQ.

Basically, other than for the initial tune, I say screw the dyno #s anyway... what matters to me is being able to pull on basically anyone at anytime.