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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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Man im amazed. That's a super smoooth Dyno. Al do your reflashed dyno's look that smooth? For instance im gettng a MBC, fuel pump, and your custom reflash in tampa. How smooth of a powerband will I have?

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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by evo542
i have two questions
1) did the buschur intercooler+pipes fit the AMS kit?
2) do you recommend getting a blowthrough MAF (good for 500+whp) like the one MalibuJack has on his car?(so the car can pass obd-II scans)
There are several with blow through maf sesnsors which UR in canada sells

I have not tested one yet

However - testing with the speed densisty set ups shows out MAF sensor is an aprox 15 - 18 whp restristriction

The point here is to show that the Dyno Flash is very well suited to cars up to 450 whp and is an option that can keep you more driveable and emissions compliant for a fraction of the cost of a full aem system
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 06:54 AM
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man this guy must have a lot of power in his hands.. very impressed... Great job on the DynoFlash AL
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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man this guy must have a lot of power in his hands.. very impressed... Great job on the DynoFlash AL
Yeah - I can not wait to see the numbers he gets at the track ! Its going to be very fast
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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Well BR stage4 is 4k, I'm assuming that the AMS set's ya back another 3.5k?


edit: smooth mofockin tune!
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by twan
Well BR stage4 is 4k, I'm assuming that the AMS set's ya back another 3.5k?


edit: smooth mofockin tune!
I am using those as approximate numbers - I am not really 100% sure on the price of the AMS kit

I am very proud of the smoothness of the curve and the power band

It has basically taken me the past 9 months of my life working every day on reflashing Evos to figure out the stock ecu well enough to be able to get these kind of results and numbers

When i first stared on my own car trying to break the 400 whp barrier I ran into a lot of problems with things in the stock ecu that did not like massive spooling up on big turbos

Over time, we have slowly identified and removed virtually every problem and now we can tune the very high whp applications without ANY additional piggy back or other device.

I could have easily pushed another 20 - 25 whp at this boost point - but with the totally stock internals we felt that this was enough power or me might be spending a long night cleaning oil out of the dyno pit.

It is important to note that this Dyno Flash technology will work with ANY of the aftermarket turbos available on the market including the Buschur, UR, HKS and AMS, etc etc

ALL tunes for aftermarket turbos will HAVE to be full custom tunes

We can provide limited base maps for those who have widebands and a piggy back to do the fine tuning - but those are for a select few

We are working with Buschur Racing to develop the Buschur Flashes for the Buschur 440 and 500 turbo kits which look very promising. In the near future you will be able to do a bolt on turbo kit install from Buschur - plug in the reprogramed ecu and be ready to run your car
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash

We are working with Buschur Racing to develop the Buschur Flashes for the Buschur 440 and 500 turbo kits which look very promising. In the near future you will be able to do a bolt on turbo kit install from Buschur - plug in the reprogramed ecu and be ready to run your car
And I am hoping that coincides closely with me taking delivery of an '05.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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Amazing job Al! You've always done well with the reflashes and it's great to see that you can improve on the almost near perfection we were seeing months ago. That's such a smooth curve which would be impossible to get with so many other applications. i can't wait to see if I can set up that tuning day down here in Atlanta or as you know I want you to work so bad on my car again after the first time that I will see you in Tampa if this doesn't go through! Keep up the good work and can't wait to see this guys 1/4 times!
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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nice numbers al. to bad the motor is stock.would have been nice to see 30+psi
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 93h22cvc
nice numbers al. to bad the motor is stock.would have been nice to see 30+psi
Not too sure I want to see that unless the turbo is attached to my own engine ! I think it would prob out gun my little Gt30 3037 turbo with ease at high boost
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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I guess someone does not want to speak of the 580 Kit?..........Oh well, I guess it only makes power on an AEM EMS setup?
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Not too sure I want to see that unless the turbo is attached to my own engine ! I think it would prob out gun my little Gt30 3037 turbo with ease at high boost
i'm sure you'll be in low 10's then
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DA-4BANGA
I guess someone does not want to speak of the 580 Kit?..........Oh well, I guess it only makes power on an AEM EMS setup?
We tested the BR580 on one customer car who was insistant on running ONLY 20 psi on pump gas only - while we did see some very good gains and a very smooth dyno sheet - and the car did run very well - it did not seem to be the best fit for that particular turbo - IMHO

IMHO - for a street driver who only wants to drive at 20 psi and only on pump gas the 440 or 500 would PROB be a better choice

After we have more of an opportunity to test all the BR turbos - which at the price of I beleive $2300 represent a true amazing value - we will be able to comment more about which one suits a particular application

I am particularly looking to find out how they all react with race gas under high boost - thats when the 580 will prob really start to come into its own - and reslistically - if your going to be making 580 whp then you prob do NOT want to be doing it on a reflashed ecu

As I have maintained all along - the PRACTICAL limitations of the reflash as a very good tuning device are 450 whp and below - - This dyno sheet and result confirms what I have been saying all along

By the time you build your motor and start running 30 psi its time for a AEM
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Cool, I agree on the 450 whp issue, and reflash, I was just curious because that 580 seems a little old school setup that wont do that great on pump gas spooling. The AEM is working a lot better lately from what I hear. But dont worry Big Al, I know the Flash still rocks Dude.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DA-4BANGA
Cool, I agree on the 450 whp issue, and reflash, I was just curious because that 580 seems a little old school setup that wont do that great on pump gas spooling. The AEM is working a lot better lately from what I hear. But dont worry Big Al, I know the Flash still rocks Dude.
Interestingly man - those genious minds at Buschur have the 580 spooling so well its not laggy at all and its walks all over the stock turbo with much more power from 4500 and up - the top end is unreal !

Still not the best choice - IMHO if you are sticking with just 20 psi and pump gas - BUT If you did its still way better than the stock turbo

Its just that its like driving an Enzo Ferrari around all day at say 30 mph - whats the point ?

the 440 is plenty of power for most guys with stock blocks and using as a daily driver with same spool up as stock and much more power on top - hard to beat that combo if you are running pump gas and low boost
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