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instead of standalone
a couple of quick questions,
currently using a standalone, but miss the instant start of the stock ecu. plus of course the license renewal problem(ob2).
for no particular reason I have an electric boost controler. can I hide that fact from the ecu? In other words can I take the ecu out of the loop in boost control?
sporting the revolver cams, I should have no problem adjusting timing to suit idle, but I will need to adjust the knock sensor limits because of the different valve gear.
Of course am currently map, from what I have gathered there is no plug and play setup to go map with the stock ecu. So I assume that means I return to maf.
The route I see so far is the ecu+ for logging, and the ecuflash behind that.
Is there anything on the horizon that would change my plans?
currently using a standalone, but miss the instant start of the stock ecu. plus of course the license renewal problem(ob2).
for no particular reason I have an electric boost controler. can I hide that fact from the ecu? In other words can I take the ecu out of the loop in boost control?
sporting the revolver cams, I should have no problem adjusting timing to suit idle, but I will need to adjust the knock sensor limits because of the different valve gear.
Of course am currently map, from what I have gathered there is no plug and play setup to go map with the stock ecu. So I assume that means I return to maf.
The route I see so far is the ecu+ for logging, and the ecuflash behind that.
Is there anything on the horizon that would change my plans?
EBC should be no problem.
You could use something like MAFTpro to stick with MAP, although unless you're making a ton of power, I'd probably go with MAF.
Not a lot is known about the stock ECU knock filter maps (read: adjust at own risk).
l8r)
You could use something like MAFTpro to stick with MAP, although unless you're making a ton of power, I'd probably go with MAF.
Not a lot is known about the stock ECU knock filter maps (read: adjust at own risk).
l8r)
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Originally Posted by nothere
a couple of quick questions,
currently using a standalone, but miss the instant start of the stock ecu. plus of course the license renewal problem(ob2).
for no particular reason I have an electric boost controler. can I hide that fact from the ecu? In other words can I take the ecu out of the loop in boost control?
currently using a standalone, but miss the instant start of the stock ecu. plus of course the license renewal problem(ob2).
for no particular reason I have an electric boost controler. can I hide that fact from the ecu? In other words can I take the ecu out of the loop in boost control?
Originally Posted by nothere
sporting the revolver cams, I should have no problem adjusting timing to suit idle, but I will need to adjust the knock sensor limits because of the different valve gear.
.. though for some strange reason I couldn't squeeze much power after converting to standard ecu (using ECU+ I was able to squeeze about 20-30+hp on top of standard ecu) Go with the recommended setup by revolvers (think it's -2/0) .. I've tried 0/0 based on buschur's advice that they set all cams to 0/0 .. and I lost about 10-15hp after 6000rpms.. thought up to 5000rpms it was 1 big fat lump of torque
If you do go to stock ECU I can pass you the settings for the idle settings for revolvers .. they are more involved than 280s
Originally Posted by nothere
Of course am currently map, from what I have gathered there is no plug and play setup to go map with the stock ecu. So I assume that means I return to maf.
The route I see so far is the ecu+ for logging, and the ecuflash behind that.
Is there anything on the horizon that would change my plans?
The route I see so far is the ecu+ for logging, and the ecuflash behind that.
Is there anything on the horizon that would change my plans?
If you have the silverbox, then you can convert to a GM MAF which is just as good as map ..
You guys are getting good, I didn't even have to answer anything in this thread...
The tune is really where your going to make the power, both a standalone and ECU can do what you need. Kyle's problem is somewhat unique, you should be able to tune and get running without much issue. Cams don't require alot of work with the stock ECU, however it does take trial and error with unusual combos.
If at all possible, try to use the stock MAF, if thats not realistic, then look into a blowthrough conversion (the ECU+ can do it with a GM sensor, so can the MAFT and MAFTPro, and my setup is discontinued, but a new version will be back on the market in the next few months)
And don't let the "if you want to make big power, you need speed density" talk influence you, its just not true, its just nobody has attempted to prove it can be done on an EVO with a blowthrough MAF sensor or stock MAF, my goal is well over 600whp, and there already have been one or two making just under 600whp with the stock MAF
The tune is really where your going to make the power, both a standalone and ECU can do what you need. Kyle's problem is somewhat unique, you should be able to tune and get running without much issue. Cams don't require alot of work with the stock ECU, however it does take trial and error with unusual combos.
If at all possible, try to use the stock MAF, if thats not realistic, then look into a blowthrough conversion (the ECU+ can do it with a GM sensor, so can the MAFT and MAFTPro, and my setup is discontinued, but a new version will be back on the market in the next few months)
And don't let the "if you want to make big power, you need speed density" talk influence you, its just not true, its just nobody has attempted to prove it can be done on an EVO with a blowthrough MAF sensor or stock MAF, my goal is well over 600whp, and there already have been one or two making just under 600whp with the stock MAF
