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Aug 16, 2006 | 11:15 AM

justchil

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16g/20g Alky users post your timing!

I'm looking for some tuned 16/20g cars with Alky to compare timing with. Mainly in the low to mid range.

I'm running 50/50 mix with 26psi. Still a work in progress... Car just isnt pulling down low like it has in the past. I think I may be going a little too aggressive although no knock was detected. I'm open for suggestions!

Code:

RPM	TPS	AirFlow	TimingAdv
3062.5	100	427.72	17
3093.75	100	465.46	14
3125	100	490.62	13
3156.25	100	515.78	11
3218.75	100	559.81	11
3281.25	100	629	10
3312.5	100	673.03	9
3375	100	742.22	9
3437.5	100	823.99	8
3500	100	893.18	8
3593.75	100	1000.11	8
3656.25	100	1132.2	7
3750	100	1245.42	8
3875	100	1314.61	8
3968.75	100	1314.61	8
4062.5	100	1339.77	8
4187.5	100	1358.64	8
4312.5	100	1402.67	8
4406.25	100	1446.7	8
4500	100	1478.15	8
4656.25	100	1490.73	8
4718.75	100	1515.89	8
4843.75	100	1534.76	8
4968.75	100	1603.95	8
5062.5	100	1603.95	8
5156.25	100	1603.95	8
5250	100	1603.95	8
5343.75	100	1603.95	8
5468.75	100	1603.95	8
5562.5	100	1603.95	9
5625	100	1603.95	9
5781.25	100	1603.95	10
5843.75	100	1603.95	11
5937.5	100	1603.95	11
6062.5	100	1603.95	11
6125	100	1603.95	12
6218.75	100	1603.95	12
6312.5	100	1603.95	12
6375	100	1603.95	13
6468.75	100	1603.95	13
6562.5	100	1603.95	13
6687.5	100	1603.95	14
6718.75	100	1603.95	15
6812.5	100	1603.95	15
6906.25	100	1603.95	16
6968.75	100	1603.95	16
7062.5	100	1603.95	16
7125	100	1603.95	16
7218.75	100	1603.95	17
7250	100	1603.95	17
7343.75	100	1603.95	17
7406.25	100	1603.95	17
7437.5	100	1603.95	17
7531.25	100	1603.95	17
7593.75	100	1603.95	17
7656.25	100	1603.95	17
7781.25	100	1603.95	17

Last edited by justchil; Aug 16, 2006 at 08:06 PM.

Aug 16, 2006 | 12:46 PM

justchil

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Here is a screenshot from my map. I've adjusted a couple minor things since this map/log was created

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Aug 16, 2006 | 01:45 PM

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I'm running 9 degrees peak, 23 - 25psi, but still rich

RPM TPS AirFlow Knock Timing
2844 26 106.9 0 43

2844 26 106.9 0 43

2875 26 113.2 0 43

2875 26 113.2 0 43

2906 29 106.9 0 42

3125 100 358.5 0 23

3094 100 402.6 0 22

3469 100 503.2 0 18

3625 100 622.7 0 14

3969 100 805.1 1 9

4438 100 1081.9 0 10

5375 100 1559.9 0 10

6156 100 1604.0 0 13

6438 100 1604.0 0 13

6344 100 1604.0 0 13

6313 100 1604.0 0 13

6719 15 113.2 0 38

6313 15 106.9 0 38

5938 31 94.4 0 31

5938 100 1012.7 0 12

4719 100 1132.2 0 9

5094 100 1434.1 0 9

5156 100 1585.1 0 10

5500 100 1604.0 0 10

5656 100 1604.0 0 10

5875 100 1604.0 0 11

6156 100 1604.0 0 12

6344 100 1604.0 0 15

6563 100 1604.0 0 16

6781 55 1604.0 0 29

6656 16 125.8 0 38

6406 100 1081.9 0 14

5344 100 1302.0 0 9

5219 100 1541.1 0 9

5313 100 1585.1 0 10

5438 100 1591.4 0 10

5563 100 1597.7 0 10

5688 100 1604.0 0 11

5844 100 1604.0 0 11

5969 100 1604.0 0 11

6063 100 1604.0 0 12

6156 100 1604.0 0 13

6250 100 1604.0 0 13

6344 100 1604.0 0 14

6469 100 1604.0 0 15

6563 100 1604.0 0 16

6656 100 1604.0 0 16

6813 20 1402.7 0 35

6969 18 75.5 0 38

6469 17 94.4 0 38

5938 15 94.4 0 38

5469 15 62.9 0 38

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Aug 16, 2006 | 02:26 PM

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Not as much as I imagined... now if I use 100% alky I'd probably have to pull more. My alky kicks in pretty low so it's almost like tuning for race gas in a way.

It worked out nice because my pump gas tune was lean down low (which I was working on) so when I added alky it was pretty close to 11.1. I've been playing with the latency and a couple other things trying to get everything perfect.

I'm just having a time bringing everything together. Tomorrow is track day so I'm normally stressing over my tune on Wednesday anyways

Aug 16, 2006 | 02:36 PM

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Eh you're hitting 16 at 6500?

Thanks for posting it up man.. if you're flash isnt a "paid for" flash post up your timing map

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Aug 16, 2006 | 03:23 PM

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Yellow is first gear, green is second - but the amount stretches accross the load so who knows?

Quote:

Originally Posted by justchil

Eh you're hitting 16 at 6500?

Well so are you

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Aug 16, 2006 | 06:05 PM

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you guys have alot more timing then me ... whats your air temps? im getting about 6 at 5500 then up to 15 by 7500 my afr is about 11.0 with 91oct. 0 knocks to maybe 1 count for a bit around 3500

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Aug 16, 2006 | 06:55 PM

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Air temps on that pull were 78 dropping to 68 by redline. This evening they were in the 90's dropping to 80's by redline. I'm not sure about before the alky but normally I see around a 10 degree drop by redline

Aug 16, 2006 | 07:17 PM

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my temps were 100 degrees down to 94 degrees

Code:

RPM	KnockSum	TimingAdv

2875	0	10
2906.25	0	8
2968.75	0	6
3000	0	4
3062.5	2	3
3125	2	3
3187.5	2	3
3250	1	3
3312.5	1	3
3406.25	1	3
3468.75	1	3
3593.75	1	3
3687.5	1	3
3781.25	1	3
3906.25	0	4
4031.25	0	4
4125	0	4
4250	0	4
4343.75	0	4
4468.75	0	4
4562.5	0	4
4718.75	0	4
4812.5	0	4
4906.25	0	4
5000	0	4
5125	0	5
5218.75	0	6
5312.5	0	6
5437.5	0	6
5500	0	6
5625	0	6
5718.75	0	7
5781.25	0	7
5906.25	0	7
6000	0	7
6062.5	0	8
6187.5	0	8
6250	0	9
6343.75	0	9
6437.5	0	9
6500	0	9
6593.75	0	9
6656.25	0	10
6750	0	10
6812.5	0	10
6875	0	11
7000	0	11
7062.5	0	12
7125	0	12
7218.75	0	13
7250	0	13
7343.75	0	14
7406.25	0	15
7468.75	0	15
7531.25	0	15
7593.75	0	15
7687.5	0	14
7843.75	0	33
7437.5	0	38

Aug 16, 2006 | 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sesso

you guys have alot more timing then me ... whats your air temps? im getting about 6 at 5500 then up to 15 by 7500 my afr is about 11.0 with 91oct. 0 knocks to maybe 1 count for a bit around 3500

You don't need timing, you got a IX

I don't know what the temps were but it was hot and humid SC air with AC blasting.

It was my first log ever, there was about 6 pages of log before I realized it was running and took off

Aug 16, 2006 | 08:02 PM

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How does your car feel down low sesso? Either you're pulling timing or it's just low at low rpm

Oh nm lol

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Aug 16, 2006 | 08:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo

It was my first log ever, there was about 6 pages of log before I realized it was running and took off

Do some 3rd gear pulls from as low of an RPM as you can to start with.. I usually do several different rpm's just to see how the car reacts.

Aug 16, 2006 | 08:15 PM

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lol well I have it as advanced I can while keeping 11:1 I could never come close to this timing with the meth

I usually edit out the low numbers but my timing will start 38* before wot and gradually go down to the 11* u se above.

my timing map looks a lil like the one above without all the retard at the top right.

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Aug 17, 2006 | 04:27 AM

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lol, your map looks almost identical to mine... I'm only on the stock 16G w/ 25psi, and WI. Since you have alcahol, I'd think your timing could be higher... I dunno though, you didn't post your fuel table.

PS: shouldn't you rescale, running 26lbs?

Last edited by honki24; Aug 17, 2006 at 04:29 AM.