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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
Sad truth about WB use is you can never be fully certain of whether the WB is reading the true ratio until you gather more qualitative readings of burned gas. I haven't checked yet but if the price is not too bad and it's use is not too complicated prehaps renting one of these:
http://www.bridgeanalyzers.com/900345_auto_desc.php4
to get a base reading would be worth while.

Imagine having something like that for real time logging
The problem with a 5 gas analyzer is speed. They typically takes 5-15 seconds per reading. Speed isn't an issue for a static dyno. But for an inertial dyno and road tuning, you need better instrument response.

The issue is that lambda is always changing in road/track situation and inertial dynos. Finding out how the vehicle sort-of averaged the last 10 seconds or so is just not that useful. Of course, we're biased. From our point of view, instruments that are inherently wrong whenever lambda is changing and take .5 to 1.5 seconds to read correctly when it stabalizes are also too slow...

Seriously, although it still isn't that cheap, calibrated gas is probably the way to go if you are really concerned with accuracy. Even if you bought a five gas analyzer, you would normally use calibrated gas to maintain it. You can also use the tanks to check for pressure related errors.

Just remember that room temp, steady pressure gas is a best case. Depending on the controller design, in car errors will typically be 2 to 5 times higher.

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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by yikez
thanks for the detailed answer. i guess the exhaust leak must be pretty minor. WOT readings are on the richer side. 10.8-11.3
It is actually pretty hard to make most widebands read artifically rich. You can do it with ours if you free air calibrate in exhaust fumes, and you can do it with current based widebands with back pressure, but normally it is much easier to get the instruments to error on the lean side.

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